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NS Power Bill Sanity Check

First billing period with electric baseboard heat in my new house, I previously used oil mostly. Bill came back as 5926 kWh over 2 months and average of 94.1 kWh/day.

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I don’t know what ours was since my wife handles the bills. But I know we were also paying crazy prices when using baseboard heating in our new house.
We got a heat pump out in this summer and our power has been half of what it was last winter. If you own your house I’d suggest a heat pump ASAP and if you rent I’d suggest a new place after your lease is up.
First thing I did when I bought the place was to start that process. Already got one lined up, just waiting for them to get going.
What are the payments like on the heat pump? Are they offset by the power bill savings?
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I'm assuming that's around 1000$? Seems about right with baseboard heating. Whats the minimum temperature you keep your home at?
Pretty normal. I’m going to assume you’re decently warm.
Prepare for your next one to be similar.
Will drop off drastically after that.
That's pretty normal for that much floor space. My peak last winter was around 55kWh per day for 1400sqft. That was keeping it at 21C all day every day because my wife and kid were home all day.
Oh man that's warm. If you dropped it to even 18/19 you would have a huge savings.
I have 2 heat pumps of the most efficient brand, a wood stove that is always running, and my bills for NS power are still about 1000 in winter. It is killing me.
Look into getting a Home Energy Assessment from Efficiency NS.
If your bills are still high even with efficient sources of heating, it's likely you're losing heat some where, like through insulation/windows/doors.
Wow, what are you heating with all of that?
I read all the replies and figured I might throw my opinion in as well, not that I am an expert in any of this stuff.
Since you have a wood stove going all the time and it does not look like it has a fresh air intake (judging from your imgur pictures), that along with your baseboard heating could be one issue.
All the fresh warm air around the fireplace that gets used up in combustion and leaves through the chimney has to get replaced from somewhere. Since your crawl space is heated with basebaord heaters, if it is leaky, from the outside into the crawl space and from the crawl space into the living area, you could be heating a constant stream of cold air all day long. Checking your house with a thermal camera on a cold, windy day could help you find out if it is leaky like I mentioned above. I bought one for my cell phone and I am sure it will have paid for itself just in the drafts I was able to seal up.
My other guess would be your windows that are high up near the ceiling. Windows, even the "energy efficient" ones you get around here are not very good. At best they are an R-3 and for the best recommended efficiency you want to be trapping the heat at your ceiling with a rating of R-50 (Energy assessment recommendations for attics). Its very hard to have an efficient house that has high ceilings and low or no attic insulation. Its not the prettiest but you could try cutting 2"xps foam to fit tightly in the window frame then putting that plastic shrink wrap over it for the winter, should help slow down the losses through there at least.
Hope that can help you narrow down your heating problems, high energy bills suck.
NS Power has a thing called Equal Billing. They take your average yearly bill and spread it out over the whole year, so it isn't high during the winter months. We did it in our home and it makes it nice and easy to know what you're going to pay every month. That being said, ours has never been as high as yours, but we have a smaller place.
It makes it totally easy to budget, but now they "update" it every 6 months. We keep things cool, only have two (sometimes the one in the bedroom) heaters on in winter and when we were both working we are each gone 60 hours a week. We are in a flat of a house. Last update brought us to $255 a month 😣 Thankfully our landlord is installing heat pumps this spring and will be paying power for the whole house. They are raising rent, but it will still save us 60 a month this way. NS power rates are a joke.
That seems fairly normal, maybe a little on the high side, but in the range of 'I could be doing more to conserve power,' and not 'I have a giant hole in the side of my house.'
This is well within expected range for using baseboard electric (the least efficient, most expensive means) to heat that volume of space.
Get a mini split it will help. There are multiple ways to get them financed and rebates available. PM me if your interested
Mine just came in at around 64kwh/day for the last 2 months. Second the heat pump idea.
We have a centrally ducted HP and electric HW
If you don't mind me asking, who installed your centrally ducted HP? Are you happy with it? My wife and I are considering having one installed.
Does that bring your bill around 1000$ for 2 months? 2 of our places had bills this high for the same time frame. It sucks but maybe look into equalized billing to spread the cost over the year.
A quick Google tells me you're probably a tick high but not ridiculous. I'm going to assume you like it fairly warm in the winter?
Baseboard electric heat is a giant power-bill monster and should be avoided if you can. I'd suggest you nab a heat pump this spring.
Thanks, I've got one lined up for install. Just waiting for them to get the unit in and start running ducts.
That’s double our power bill. Our house was built 2019, energy rating is 85.We have Electric hot water, we have heat pump in basement, one on main floor. Our last bill was 46 kWh/day, due to be paid Feb. 20 and was 420 dollars for 2 months. Our house has a finished basement ( utility room has bare concrete ), and our livable sq footage is approx 2000.
What is your summer power bill?
My old place was 3 finished floors, 5 bedroom/3 bath, ~3000 sq ft. It wasn't uncommon to use 120 kWh/day there, but it was a much colder climate.
Baseboard heating? You need sweaters. Lots of them.
Whoever sold you on electric baseboard laughed to the bank. Worst way to heat. Get you heat pumps in. It will get better. New homes are harder to heat the first couple years due to them drying out.
Yikes. Make sure you're turning off heat to rooms when not in use.
Our February bill from last year shows our average usage of just under 70kWh per day. Our house is smaller than yours, but last year was brutally cold and we weren't being diligent in monitoring our usage. I'm quite interested to see our bill has changed this year.
Did you go from oil water heater to using an electric water heater?
Half our winter electric bill is from heating water :( My wife takes long showers and prefers to use hot water for laundry - she also has a thing about detergent so she runs it with the second rinse option and does another rinse cycle afterwards.
I've lost out a long time ago on that argument so we just pay more :/
Pretty sure you can request historical data for an address from NSP.
We had comparable averages during the last winter's coldest months (Feb and Apr bills), with electric baseboard heaters and one heat pump. It goes down to almost 30 kWh in summer. But we have a TOD meter because we also installed one thermal unit along with the pump. So we pay 50% less at night and over weekends. We try to run laundry and dishwasher late at night or during weekends, etc.
How much did the ETU cost? Who did the work for you? Where in your house did you put it? Do you have it turned on or just benefit from the TOD savings?
High usage. Try to cut down. Change to LED lightbulbs, turn off lights. Unheat (set to 14 degrees) a room your not using. Use programmable thermostats or turn down when you leave for work. Use a blanket set the heat to 18 instead of 20. Make sure thermostats are all set the same. Get a heat pump (NSP will finance this, it'll save you a ton. Use less hot water, turn down the hot water heater a bit. That being said NS power is high cost, but people forget, your the one using the power, you can absolutely controll how much you use.