Antibiotics Tied to Heart Valve Problems

Sep 17, 2019 · 22 comments
Judy Werner (Long Island NY)
In March of 2020 I was put on Cipro for diverticulitis. By June I was getting short of breath. An echocardiogram and TEE showed that I had two ruptured mitral valve chord tendons, causing a severe mitral valve prolapse. (my echo from a year ago was normal.) I had to undergo open heart surgery in September to repair the tendons and the mitral valve. Coincidence???
Christine P (Elkins Park PA)
@Judy Werner I am just reviewing this article based on a recent diagnosis of cardiomyopathy (low heart function) I am otherwise healthy and believe this may have developed after 60 days of Cipro/Levaquin. I had no heart problems prior to antibiotic treatment for a sinus infection. I hope your outcome was positive and you continue to improved health. Anything you may be able to share with me?
Travelers (All Over The U.S.)
I have used Cipro for many years for treatment of prostate infections. My doctor went to Cipro because other antibiotics and sulfa medicines either didn't work or I was allergic to them. This line from the actual study is troubling: "These results show that the risk of aortic and mitral regurgitation is highest with current use followed by recent use. No risk was observed with past use of FQs." The data from the study also indicate that the percentages listed in this NYT article (i.e., 240 percent higher, etc.) give an incomplete picture of the total data. In fact, the FQ users had a .8% (not 8%, not 80%) more likelihood of having current regurgitation problems. In other words, it is rare. The comparison of FQs with two other antibiotics, instead of with all other types of antibiotics, give the impression of data snooping. In other words, do a lot of analyses and then report the two that were "statistically significant." Are these two types of medicines used to treat different types of infections? The study doesn't address whether the effects on regurgitation could be the result of the type of infection and/or the severity of infection and/or the resistance of the infection to amoxicillin and azithromycin.
Birdpants (San Francisco)
I’ve had a FQ prescribed to me twice, by different GPs. The first time was for a bronchial infection. It was before there were black box warnings, but because I’d never had the drug before, and because I’m generally wary of drugs, I looked it up online before taking it. I was so scared by patient reports that I called the doc the next day and asked if I could have azithro instead, a drug I already knew I could tolerate. He said sure, and it remedied my infection, and that was that. The second prescription came a few years later (with black box warnings out at this point) from a different GP, to treat a UTI which, it turned out, I didn’t even have. People can roll their eyes at “Dr. Google” and at irritating patients like me who are mistrustful of the medical establishment and insist on doing their own research —but had I blindly accepted the wisdom of these doctors, I (in my early 40s and with a toddler) could very easily have ended up being one of the cautionary tales in these comments. It makes me LIVID. I am *so sorry* for those of you who have lost vital components of your health to the arrogance, carelessness and/or miseducation of the common physician.
Thornton Wilder (London, United Kingdom)
There is a mug you can buy online, which says "please don't confuse your Google search with my medical degree". What then, do we do when those who say "please don't confuse your Google search with my medical degree", do not appear to be informed themselves for whatever reason and cannot give informed consent? I saw a picture of the mug online one day, being used as a meme in response to something, and thought that the exact attitude that is exemplified by the mug, and someone using it as a meme, is why people keep being harmed and why people have not been listened to (at least until recently). Not everyone with a medical degree is impressed by the mug though, I actually see that one doctor made the following comment on the mug...... "I've seen this image posted by doctors on several social media sites. It's time for some REAL TALK. If your doctor is drinking out of this mug. I think it's time to find a new doctor." When things go wrong, it is always easier to blame the people at the bottom of the chain, as opposed to looking at the wider, professional, systemic, regulatory or corporate failures.
B. (Brooklyn)
Levaquin: Cousin of a cousin had to have two operations to correct tendon damage; I had every adverse effect listed (as I realized later) and stopped it after four days. No more floxes for me.
Mark A Girard (Ottawa, Ontario)
Thank you for covering another horrible health problem routinely caused by these incredibly toxic drugs, the FQs. While this articular reaction may be rare, and the aortic ruptures may be rare and the Achilles tendon ruptures may be rare and the retinal detachments may be rare and the neuropathy may be rare and the psychiatric distress may be rare, combined they are anything but rare and are in fact commonplace. The sad and sorry truth is that the adverse reactions to FQs are happening to people all day, every day, and it has to stop. This is a massive ongoing catastrophe. Doctors are oblivious to the massive amounts of harm they are doing to their patients and routinely misdiagnosing their victims with fibro, ALS, Parkinson's, MS, autoimmune disorders and so on. There are millions of us but 99.9% have no idea what happened. I urge everyone to google some terms like "fluoroquinolone toxicity" and "floxed", the slang term for our condition, stemming from the generic names of the drugs, most of which end in "floxacin". You need to know about this. One expert said there is nothing that causes more head to toe damage that won't just kill you. We suffer HORRIFIC damage that leaves us living in a half dead state struggling to survive and seriously considering suicide. We lose a lot of people to that. Please, protect yourselves. Look into this further and avoid this dangerous class of drugs like the plague, which is actually one of the only times they should be used.
Gene Cass (Morristown NJ)
There are many fluoroquinolone victim support groups on the internet for anyone who has been damaged or thinks they may have been damaged by these drugs. This article is just the tip of the iceberg. The effects from taking these drugs can happen months after taking them that’s why most doctors are unaware of all the effects. It’s also possible that the drug reps downplay the serious side effects when selling these drugs to doctors.
Renuka (NJ)
I hope media can play their role in addressing this important issue. Guidelines and policies must change. Agencies must be held accountable when guidelines and pixies are not in place despite evidence. It is criminal to see quality of so many lives being impacted for a wrong reason: lack of awareness and guidelines. NYT: please don’t rest till the problem Is addressed.
heath quinn (woodstock ny)
I'm hoping that medical professionals and journalists will stop referring to fluoroquinolone adverse events as rare. I think they are common, but they slide under the radar because fluoroquinolones are administered when people are ill, and their wide range of negative symptoms are often confused with the downstream adverse events of the illnesses for which the medications are prescribed. I think that fluoroquinolone adverse events are underreported, and under-diagnosed. Although the FDA has given fluoroquinolone-associated disability an acronym - FQAD - there is still no ICD-10 code, or modifier for an existing ICD-10 code, to allow billable diagnoses. Thus, there is little systemic medical profession acceptance that this is a widespread condition, and no money for developing diagnostics and treatments. And yet, unfortunately, people affected live with the resulting problems for the rest of their lives. I've lived with it for 20 years. Undiagnosed and untreated for the first 17 years, I'm partially disabled as a result. I had to diagnose myself, and am learning how to manage symptoms. But some of the damage is irreversible. Every medical professional who's worked with me has either missed the cause, or has been skeptical until they observed effects unfolding in my health. Only then did they - reluctantly - begin to accept, and then start understanding, some of what was - and still is - happening. Can the Diagnosis column report on FQAD-affected people?
A (NYC)
When Cipro was new and being widely dispensed, I developed severe bilateral knee tendonosis three weeks after ending a course of treatment. It lasted for weeks. My dermatologist guessed that it was Cipro, so I have avoided this drug class ever since - I list it as an allergy in my medical records. In the ensuing years, the black box warnings keep increasing in number and severity - yet doctors keep prescribing them. I will take them only if I have an infection that would otherwise prove fatal. They’re nasty drugs.
Mark A Girard (Ottawa, Ontario)
@A I had a HORRIFIC adverse reaction to them and would not take them again under any circumstances. I would rather take my chances with the plague or anthrax or a flesh eating bacteria. Doctors are doing immense harm to their patients on a regular basis and they are oblivious.
singer700 (charlottesville,virginia)
@Mark A Girard Ill be sending this article to the friend who got Retinal Detachment,and a tendon problem after taking these drugs for a serious bout of pneumonia...however the Doctor told her it was untrue now we have skewing,lying doctors in Charlotte..how sad that Doctors refuse to even answer truthfully given the death of my brother in an emergency for Brain absesses I was shocked at how superficial and nonincriminating their answers were..Iam a New Yorker and pride myself on being diligent with my vigilance hopefully,but this experience with the emergency death was comical,laughable...no intelligent person would have tolerated this mute answering and I educated myself for a year following the sudden death.There was something amiss of course NO LABS,TOO MANY DOCTORS NO COMMUNICATION I THINK...truthfully a course should be given or the patients advocate even met with silence on the phone with GP...Marth Jefferson Hospital Charlottesville....
iris fingerhut (Encinitas , CA)
for 30 years I was required take 2g of Amoxicillin before any dental procedure. this was due to the fact that I have a heart murmur. apparently, having this anomaly predisposes one to blood borne infections that will settle in the heart. 5-10 years ago, this practice was stopped as it really didn't offer any real benefit. my immune system is completely shot. in 2003 I was diagnosed with Osteomylitis of the skull and septum. the infection was MRSA. PICC line, 6 weeks on infusion antibiotics. I continue to be plagued with chronic sinus infections. I became a vegetarian to limit my exposure to further antibiotic poisoning.
gerry (princeton)
Is this ever given to livestock and could it be in our food chain or water supply ?
Nicole (Vancouver bc)
@gerry Absolutely! Also in farmed fish and seafood. This antibiotic changed my life forever. I can never chance eating anything that isn’t organic and antibiotic free.
Dr. J (CT)
@Nicole, I’m sorry to hear about your problems. I avoid all animal products, but not for this reason — though it’s a good one to add to my arsenal of reasons to avoid them. So I eat plant based whole food — where the whole food means minimal to no processed foods, and only slightly processed at that. Which means cooking food at home. And cooking is considered light to moderate exercise. The downside? Few restaurant options, and what exist are not as tasty as my own food. Even though I’m at best a middling cook.
Laume (Chicago)
Im pretty sure Cipro and Levoquin aren’t amongst the antibiotics normally given to livestock. Think about it: these are so harsh how would the animals not be harmed? Farmers like antibiotics to fatten their animals up, and these seem like they would more likely give them diarrhea, lost appetite, and ruptured tendons and other problems. Also, these are the “new” drugs, probably more expensive than older drugs.
Thornton Wilder (London, United Kingdom)
Thank you The New York Times for drawing attention to this important research from the University of British Columbia. There still appears to be somewhat of a vacuum of knowledge among some (by no means all) in the medical community concerning the dangers that fluoroquinolones can possess. There is also a growing amount of scientific and medical research/literature out there in addition to this research, and it is pointing in a similar direction. Even when a person has manifest and testable damage, some (by no means all) medical professionals can be reticent to say with certainty that the damage was cause by a fluoroquinolone, especially if they were the prescribing professional and the reaction is delayed. Noticable tendon damage can manifest months after discontinuation of the fluoroquinolone (this point was made by specialists at the European Medicines Agency Public Hearing into Fluoroquinolones in June 2018).
sally (los angeles)
@Thornton Wilder I had tendon damage from Cipro within days of starting it. The ER nurse said it was not uncommon; the doctor said it was in my head.
Mark A Girard (Ottawa, Ontario)
@Thornton Wilder, great post. One part of the problem is that the reporting system for adverse events is set up so doctors all over the globe basically have to spend their own time turning themselves in for poisoning their patients. Even though most doctors don't even know how to report an adverse event and have never done so in their lives, they still believe that the numbers of reported cases is accurate or even that they are inflated with all sorts of people who actually had food poisoning, genetic conditions and active imaginations. Nothing could be further from the truth. The adverse reactions to these drugs are incredibly common, just routinely misdiagnosed. Doctors are doing incredible harm to their patients and they are oblivious to the trail of misery and mayhem they are causing.
Laume (Chicago)
Another problem is doctors like to say their patients are wrong.