What We Learned in N.F.L. Week 2

Sep 16, 2019 · 52 comments
Dave S (Albuquerque)
Just wanted to mention the similarity between Tom Brady, a sixth round pick replacing Drew Bledsoe after he went down with a severe injury, and Gardner Minshew (ie, the Mustache), also drafted in the sixth round, replacing Nick Foles after he broke his shoulder. And playing well enough to maybe take away Foles job.
Keith Dow (Folsom Ca)
Thanks for the coverage of the 49ers. Oops, you didn't have any. That's okay. California's economy is much bigger than New York's and I guess you are still in shock from being an unimportant state.
Loki (New Hampshire)
No team could use Colin K? Cmon!
Tricia (California)
Andrew Luck seems to be the smartest guy in the room.
Daniel M. (Tacoma, WA)
I'm not sure if he actually sported that outfit in the lead up to the game or if it has just gone viral again: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/dec/24/led-by-gardner-minshew-cougars-arrive-in-style-in-/ hoping the former but it did have the Washington State logo on the outfit which may seem a little too much for an NFL rookie
AlNewman (Connecticut)
I think it’s incredible that at this late stage of Brady’s career, Tom Terrific has another legitimate shot at leading the Patriots to an undefeated season.
Anti-Marx (manhattan)
@AlNewman It's not the years. It's the number of hits. Brady doesn't extend plays. He releases the ball more quickly than anybody else ever. He avoids career shortening hits. He's smart enough to a 3 yrd sack rather than force the ball into coverage or risk taking a big hit. Rothlisberger is the exact opposite of Brady. He seems to want to acquire scars.
Danny Boy (NJ)
Best backstory (ever?) Pineiro’s birthday was Friday and team hung a piñata in shape of a Bronco at his party (which they then took turns beating) then wore 10 gallon hats to Denver on plane ride.
Dennis (Westport, CT)
Happy Hoffman agreed that the Niners did well winning their second consecutive road game.
Perry Brown (Utah)
Good grief! American football is such a waste of time. The games are designed solely to maximize television ad revenue. What a bore.
Student (TX)
I would like to add how dead wrong I was on Lamar Jackson. I actually thought he would regress, but he proved me wrong
John Smith (New York)
Not particularly eventful when both of the Steelers and the Saints lost their qbs for at least a few weeks, maybe more???
Jarno (Berlin)
I love NFL. Even though I'm German. Did anyone notice, that if your cable doesn't show the game it's very difficult to find a proper stream? They are low quality or lagging or even restricted due to locaion :( ... I find it very frustrating and that's why I got NordVPN. I'm not advetising, but just saying, that it's really working! I can bypass restrictions on very good speed. So, gogo New York Jets... I'm ready for their tommorow game!
Armo (San Francisco)
There is a team on the west coast that apparently isn't worthy of your recognition. The QB on the un named team had a passer rating of 131 tying, Mahomes, and the second leading rusher of the league, Matt Brieda, tore it up. The un named team lies somewhere between the deserts of Los Angeles and the Puget Sound. BTW the un named team has won 4 out of 5 superbowls.
Peter Close (West Palm Beach, Fla.)
It's not easy rooting for a Redskin potato, but as a native Washingtonian, it is my avowed duty to assist the nation in forging alternative facts & realities.
Blackmamba (Il)
Does anyone want to play QB for the Chicago Bears? Can you tell who is on your team? Can you throw them the football? Can you beat the Cheeseheads?
Paul J W (NYZc)
Now that I have Amazon Prime I get the NFL channel in the no cost version. With this I can watch game highlights of every game. So at no cost I watch these which are about 1-2 minutes each and see the best of each game, do not waist a day watching 90% filler and ads.
Student (TX)
you can also watch highlights......on YouTube at no cost
Tricia (California)
As I tried to watch football in week one, I grew very weary of a one hour game taking 3.5 hours to play. And as I watched an ejected player requiring 2 big guys to drag him off the field, I realized that the steroid use must be at an all time high. And seeing the injuries drop them like flies, I knew that I was done with football. And then NE reveals that accusations of sexual assault don’t matter a bit. “Boys will be boys.”
Howard (Washington Crossing)
The NFL needs to start firing referees whose blunders cost teams victories. It appears that some of these incompetents work for Las Vegas. And if it can happen in soccer, it can happen in football.
Amanda Jones (Chicago)
Maybe it's because I was a Bears fan, maybe all the terrible health issues, maybe the money, maybe the tired analysis, maybe the predictable Patriots---but, instead of watching any games on Sunday, I go to the gym---it is mostly empty, I have the entire facility to myself---feel great afterward--arrive home just in time for dinner with my wife. I do regret all those wasted Sunday's, where I sat all day, eat too much, eat the wrong food, skipped dinner, couldn't sleep after a day of bad food and what became for me, boring football.
Paul (Chicago)
The refs in the NFL are a joke Is incompetency a job skill required?
Chuck Burton (Mazatlan, Mexico)
@Paul the refs do not have the advantage of seeing every act in super slow motion and they often have their vision obstructed by giant bodies. By comparison, umpiring baseball is a walk in the park, yet those worthies have been reviled throughout history. Would you be better at this?
WeAreWeary (West Coast)
@Chuck Burton I would definitely be better at it because I would follow the refereeing protocol and rules, which clearly say if you're not 100% certain of a call, let the play develop normally. You can always call it back after a replay, but once you blow it dead, it's dead. So yeah - MUCH better than these incompetent buffoons. We're only two games into the season, and I'm already getting that queasy feeling that some of the refs are being paid off. Same feeling I had last year as well.
db2 (Phila)
Sure looks we need body bags not medical tents. Speaking as one who knows.
Progers9 (Brooklyn)
Dark horse to win it all is the Green Bay Packers. LOL you may think, but consider this team is shaping up to be a top five defense with an offense barely functional. Yet, they are undefeated. Aaron Rodgers at quarterback and you know as the season progresses the offense will get better and better.
Sue McKeown (Gahanna, Ohio)
@Progers9, As a Pack fan since the Ice Bowl during the 1960s as a child (Madison native; only a 33-year Ohioan), Go Pack Go! The Pack has a very loyal following in the Columbus, OH metro area. Get approving looks whenever wearing a Packers T-shirt, replica jersey, or sweartshirt. The sports bar that is the home for Central Ohio Packer Backers is packed (pun intended) to the gills every game. It's a blast wathcing the game with this group. Our 50/50 raffles donate about $2,500 to local charities annually, too.
TMOH (Chicago)
Here is what learned about the NFL in week 2. Never take a knee (Kapernick) but instead make women, against their will, take a knee for a man’s prevented and illegal desires (Antonio Brown and Robert Kraft). Robert Kraft rewards true Patriots, who are actively make America Great Again, by subjecting women as objects for men’s pleasures.
runaway (somewhere in the desert)
the DeMarcus Robinson caption is classic snark. Kudos.
Jack Chicago (Chicago)
Your headline should have been "The Bears Win an (Extremely) Poor One". All the Bears could celebrate was that their team, led by a very average QB, had finally found a kicker who could ..... well ... kick!
Tortuga (Headwall, CO)
How did the Bears get one second put on the clock after their game against Denver was over? And that after the lamest roughing the passer call ever. The refs are pathetic this year!
John (CA)
Come on, Jimmy G. should at least get an honorable mention here with a blow out win. Ok, his passes were not as beautiful as Mahomes, but there were lots of them and on target.
Chuck Burton (Mazatlan, Mexico)
Not one single word about the 49ers, at +38 the third best point differential after New England and Baltimore, both who played the hapless Dolphins.
susan (nyc)
The Green Bay Packers won again so I'm happy. Go Pack!!!!
David Hurwitz (Calabasas CA)
I watched the so-called Goff fumble again and again, and I do not understand the reversal. Goff’s arm can clearly be seen going forward when he is hit. That’s a forward and incomplete pass as far as I am concerned.
John (CA)
@David Hurwitz Dude, the arm has to be going forward WITH control of the ball. You got only the first part.
Rob (San Diego)
The mere suggestion that the Saints lost because of a bad referee call is ludicrous. That would be the same as saying they lost because of a fumble. If you can't recover from a turnover, and particularly if your opponent beats you by 4 touchdowns, they are better than you and they just proved it. In this case, NOLA lost their quaterback, the quarterback with the most touchdown passes in NFL history, and yes, that's hard to recover from. As to bad refereeing? Cry me a river. LA teams have had to put up with that for decades. Everybody hates LA. LA teams are the only teams homered in their own home town. The referees work hard, they're underpaid, they strive to get it right, and often they're just out there because they love the game. And it is just a game, isn't it.
WeAreWeary (West Coast)
@Rob No idea what you're talking about. Los Angeles didn't even HAVE a team for at least a decade until recently.
Ben M (NYC)
Please stop with the refs beat the Saints! The Rams beat the Saints. Over and done. The Rams defense did an amazing job, and that had NOTHING to do with the refs. And please, dont give me the "momentum of the game changed" excuse. Even if they allowed that to be a TD, I think you forgot the other 20+ points the Rams scored and that they only allowed one TD and a field goal for the rest of the game. Another thing, one of their TDs was revoked because of a penalty. The score of this game could have easily been 34-16. So please, stop with the whining about a bad call by the refs. The Rams defense held the Saints, their offense was very good and they were thoroughly beat and humiliated them.
Mat (Texas)
@Ben M No one is saying that the Refs beat the Saints. What they are saying is that, yet again, the Saints are on the receiving end of atrocious reffing - reffing that any objective fan of the game should be against. But as to your points - first, if the TD was allowed- the Saints are up 10-3 - you have no idea how the rest of that game plays out - so the fact that LA had other scores is meaningless. Second - the Saints were penalized on almost every single big play they had. All game they were called for holding - while the Rams literally manhandled Jordan all game. Further - multiple penalties that should have been called on the Rams - like when Smith's helmet was literally ripped off his face - weren't called. Lastly - Their defense was facing a back-up to a HoF, so not impressive, and an offense that was penalized for breathing, and their offense was able to hold their way through the game, against a defense that had a TD taken away from them. So no - the only ones who were humiliated were NFL refs yet again, and "fans" like you who are okay with atrocious reffing.
Treehorn (Seattle, WA)
Geez Ben this article is the personification of that New Yorker magazine cover, "A Parochial New Yorker's View of the World." No mention that Russell Wilson rose to the occasion to lead the Seahawks to a tough victory over the Steelers. Those of us out West might as well live on the moon.
Treehorn (Seattle, WA)
@Treehorn Ben: Thank you for adding the Seahawks win over the Steelers to the recap after my original comment was published.
Lydia Bogar (Massachusetts)
The New England Patriots have totally lost their moral compass. Other teams should know that parents and grandparents are leaving the fold. First it was ignorance of the CTE studies done at Boston University, then it was Mr. Kraft and now this mess with Antonio Brown. When do fans demand a return to the love of the sport?
roseberry (WA)
@Lydia Bogar Are you kidding, the Patriots moral compass has always pointed straight to hades. It seems to be functioning normally.
stefan (Seattle)
Was nothing learned in week two about the Seahawks? Solid game, 130 passer rating and Wilson at his best yet not even a paragraph recapping the game.
M2 (Louisiana)
Sure, that play in the Saints game should not have been blown dead, and the Saints should have been awarded a touchdown. Then the touchdown should have been wiped off the board since Goff got hit in the face on the same play. The Saints were actually lucky to get the ball there: in the "protect the quarterback beyond reason" era, the Rams should have been given 15 yards and a first down on that play.
Gretna Bear (17042)
@M2 in the absence of "protect the quarterback beyond reason" very high paid QBs are fast falling to the sidelines. Pro ball action is short brutal burst of entertainment for the fans. Enter subs and it turns into bursts of mistake fill folly for the fans.
Gretna Bear (17042)
Sitting in a very hot stadium surrounded by humanity these games are very over hyped when you reduce the 7s to 1, and 3s to 3/7s, which equals to low scores interrupted by more minutes of breaks than action. Woody's "three yards and a cloud of dust" offense was more exciting !
terry brady (new jersey)
I'm very sorry but the only story is the NE Patriots and their sure fire bowling ball 300 this year. The defense looked as if they had 14 players on the field and the psychology was pathologically devastating to the looser Miami. Brady never got his pulse over 80 bpm and the scoreboard lights burned brightly only on one side. Brady did not even shower after the game as he was fresh as a bathed baby. Even the water boy could man a position as the programmatic Patriots saw everything in slow motion wherein Miami only felt and saw frenetic chaos. How many schools in New England will be named the Brady Academy? The name Brady will be mentioned millions and millions of times before Thanksgiving. In Janurary 2020, it will be the only word spoken: Brady Brady Brady.
amp (NC)
@terry brady relative? You don't need to be a relative to cheer my beloved Patriots. Not a bad start--Pats 76 points and opponents 3.
Mark (Los Angeles)
Enough already. The Chargers had a touchdown taken away twice in a matter of minutes due to questionable penalties. The Saints were blown out without Brees and one call wouldn't have changed that.
Red (Metairie)
I'm surprised the refs of the Rams/Saints game weren't listed as top performers. Again.