Place for Kitchen Scraps

Dec 10, 2018 · 118 comments
Deadline (New York City)
Not a gardener. I thought COMPOST came in heaps, not BINS. So TIL I learned about the stages of COMPOST. Also, I tend to get it mixed up with mulch. We have a recycling room and a compacter chute. I have a step-on garbage can for the organic stuff that goes down the chute, and a blue wastebasket for the glass and plastic that goes in the recycling room. I don't have space in my teensy one-room apartment for yet another waste container. If there was a COMPOST BIN on my floor, I'd take a little baggie of the appropriate stuff out daily, but we don't, and I'm not shlepping to Union Square. Only when I came to Wordplay did I realize that the SHELL referred to eggSHELLs, and not those on lobsters and the like, which I figured would not go into COMPOST. (Or do they?) BIRD ON A Wing before WIRE messed me up briefly. IIRC, being a FILE CLERK in a law firm could be fairly demanding, because they use(d?) rather complicated decimal filing systems. Today's AZARIA clue explained why I didn't recognize the characters mentioned in the AZARIA clue of a few days ago. I said it in a reply earlier, but I'll say it again: I loved the wordplay of NEGAWATT. Appreciated the shout-outs to two of my favorites, George CARLIN and AUDRA McDonald. Hated the math clue. Amanda and Karl are quickly (this is only their sixth NYT XWP) becoming favorites. And they're very young. Also, I love the picture of their dog on xwordinfo. Hearty thanks to all concerned.
Just Carol (Conway AR)
I like learning new things and TIL about NEGAWATTS! I love the sound of that and think the electrotechgrammarian who coined it deserves kudos as do today’s puzzle constructors! Great solve! :-D
Shari Coats (Nevada City, CA)
I loved Deb’s admission that she only got 3D because she already had the ‘n’ in the middle. Me too! Negawatts was a TIL for me as well, and I got it because I knew Nate the Great. I’m not sure why folks get so grumpy about neologisms or slang terms. Language is alive and always changing.
Ron (Austin, TX)
So much objection to NEGAWATTS! It was my favorite clue/entry after sussing out the N (NATE was a no-know). So many A-words: ATRIA, AREA, AMOK, APPEARS, AMAL, AUDRA, AMIE, AGILE, AZARIA, and ALDOUS! Nice to see Mr. Clapton again! Enjoyed the puzzle and the theme topic of which I am a contributor. Leads me to the question: Why aren't "conservatives" into conservation?
Robert (Vancouver Canada)
and Elke Ron (and Barry A.)- you asked earlier :''What's a Strata ?'' Hope this wiki * answers your question : https://en,wikipedia.org/wiki/Strata_title Our strata comprises ca.200 condos/apartments in several buildings.We do have a property management company guiding us. And preserving the peace. *and yes, I have answered their current annual fundraiser....
Robert (Vancouver Canada)
Correction in wiki post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strata_title (comma should have been a dot )
Ron (Austin, TX)
@Robert Thanks for the info!
BarbJ (Vancouver, BC)
Fun theme with similar problems already mentioned. I look forward to more from Amanda and Carl. The Cohen clue did bring to mind some favourites. Everyone knows 'Hallelujah' which has been covered somewhere around 80 times or maybe more, but 'Nevermind' gives me goosebumps everytime I listen to it: https://youtu.be/N3HbrfV0hJM
Puzzlemucker (New York)
@BarbJ thanks for that. I’m so grateful that he had a second career, beginning with I’m Your Man right up to his last album, You Want it Darker. He made music that is both timely and timeless.
david g sutliff (st. joseph, mi)
Nega watt?? You have to be kidding.
Xia Horowitz (Richmond, CA)
@david g sutliff, me neither!
Caitlin (Calgary, Canada)
This was mostly an easy solve until I ran into a few end-of-puzzle SNAGS. I had to to STEW over NEGAWATTS for a while...and finally had to turn to google. Otherwise a fun puzzle with a cute theme.
CS (RI)
Speaking as a former one, I wanted "first year" for low level law firm employee. Almost went with it after I had the FI.....!
Mary Tetreau (Londonderry, NH)
I thought it should be “paralegal.”
LarryB (Seattle, WA)
Believe it or not, there's still paper to be filed away, even after it's imaged and stored away in a document management system. As long as we have official documents with seals, we're gonna need the paper.
Robert Michael Panoff (Durham, NC)
Knew of compost pile and composter, but not compost bin. In the late 90's during the crash there was the dotcompost pile, the glut of companies that didn't make it. Lots of venture capital was burned there on.
Deb Amlen (Wordplay, the Road Tour)
@Robert Michael Panoff The bin is what you put the scraps in before carrying it out to the composter.
LarryB (Seattle, WA)
Yep! Our bin lives under the sink, and it's well-designed, odor free and fruit-fly proof as long as you close the lid. It requires green bags though. Here in the city of Seattle, we have weekly compost/garden waste pickup, and it's a violation to put meaningful amounts of food in the regular trash.
KC (Greenfield, MA)
A fun easy Tuesday puzzle until we tripped up on NATE/NEGAWATTS. Always happy to learn new words.
pmb (California )
I'm not buying "negawatts". COCA shows a grand total of 4 usage sources. All of them are magazines and the last usage was in 2012. Gluey-rific for sure.
Steve L (Chestnut Ridge, NY)
@pmb Doesn't even have value as glue, since MEGAWATTS and MATE would make perfectly good entries.
pmb (California )
@Steve L Very true and in fact that's what I had until I remembered (very vaguely) remembered Nate the Great
Leapfinger (Durham NC)
For some reason, the theme made me think of "Bob" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUQDzj6R3p4 Look close, and maybe there's something to recycle at both ends... HOCK, LOUT, SCREW, BOSS -- Any reasons that those might be tossed? BIN there, done that. Just so all y'all know that I'll sort through possible recyclables and compostables well past the point where can pretend my time is worth ANYthing atall. Didn't quite see eye-to-eye on some 2-parters: POPin, PASSby, and PEELOff, but stopped short of CARLout, ENRoff, PROCTelse and COMPOSTBout. Before reading the clue, I thought PITB[OSS] was going to grow into PITBULL, which would fit nicely with 12D C-ATTLE. Altogether an AGILE solve, well within the realm of being sprightly. Enjoyed it, Amanda-Karl!!
Leapfinger (Durham NC)
Had an eyebrow-waggle over the mismatch of 'Offended'/HURT. 'Offended' is fairly limited to disapproval without quite getting into the territory of 'pain' that accompanies HURT'. I haven't scanned the comments yet to see if this point has been raised, but if it has, I'll find it myself, BarryA, thanks.
Rich in Atlanta (Clarkston, Georgia)
@Leapfinger I played 'Bob' for Dr. J yesterday. Started with a conversation about Dylan and then I found out that she'd never seen it. For those few who may not be familiar - here's the 'original.' Also quite entertaining: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0 ..
Leapfinger (Durham NC)
@Rich in Atlanta I love it that I toss out a slice and 'someone' sends back an entire loaf. Looking forward, let's hope that more 'feet are stained'
Dr W (New York NY)
Anybody else get a mental image of a giant helix in the middle of the grid? I would have clued 15A this way: "Non-accessory for Rene Magritte." And then wonder what George C would have made of that.
Leapfinger (Durham NC)
A 'non-accessory for Magritte'? LOL, Dr W, didn't think we'd get 'un autre pipe' out of anyone for that!! Now that you've raised the issue of a giant double helix,I feel inspired to begin agitating for a genetic mutation to transcribe DNA henceforth as entwined helix and shelix. We've long passed where the rib o' some Eve should've presaged the double shelix of Prof. Roz Franklin.
Dr W (New York NY)
@Leapfinger Thanks for bringing up Franklin -- that omission was a major gender stain on the Nobel concept. It wasn't the fiirst or only one -- the Nobel award for nonconservation of parity ignored another key player whose experimental work made it real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chien-Shiung_Wu I was doing graduate work in nuclear physics at the time and well remember my professors remarking about the non-recognition of her work.
Kelpurnia (Portland OR)
Hey, Leapfinger! I had a pet land snail called Helix for a few months. During that time I learned (or seemed to learn) that land snails are hermaphroditic. If I ever again have a pet land snail, I’ll call it Shelix. Good word/name.
PuzzleDog (Florida)
I was solving somewhat haphazardly, and had URGE for PROD and CAPE for PIPE for a bit, which led to a brief trip down a rathole of thinking there was some sort of clever consonant inversion going on. However, the rest of the puzzle resolved itself quickly and without tricks, so I corrected my over-complicated thinking and fixed the top (north?) without much trouble. I solved Thursday through Sunday yesterday, and that may have affected my approach. I always like it when I have to go back and correct errant thinking--I always feel it is a good primer for dealing with ambiguities of real life.
Nancy (NYC)
Not an especially hard puzzle, but it kept my mind engaged enough that I never thought I was just plopping in answers. Some thoughts: Amen, amen to the CARLIN quote (26A) -- especially now. I learned a new word -- Larghissimo. Do I want to hear anything played Larghissimo? I'm not really sure, not being a notably patient person. Leave quickly is to PEEL OUT? Considering how long it takes me to PEEL an apple, I would think PEELing OUT would be slower than slow. Larghissimo, in fact. Re 4D. I was thinking PARALEGAL. But a PARALEGAL is Clarence Darrow compared to a FILE CLERK. "Low-level", indeed! Some fun fill. But the theme was pretty meh, I thought.
Liane (Atlanta)
@Nancy I think File Clerks in law firms went the way of the dinosaurs unless they are still a thing in England? A very Rumpole of the Bailey clue . . .
Gerhard (westchester)
@Nancy A number of years ago, I heard Pete Seeger sing "Amazing Grace" Larghissimo. Amazing took about five seconds.
Al in Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh, PA)
@Nancy No surprise that a New Yorker didn't think first of the automotive sense of PEELOUT. Also known as "burning rubber", it's leaviing a tire track (or peel) on the roadway during hard acceleration.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
I quit COMPOSTing about 4 years ago and still feel guilty about it, but the chore of hauling, digging, turning, etc., just got to be too much with the drought....and I'm sorry, but if you put PITs in the COMPOST BIN, they will still be there, unchanged, when Gabriel sounds the trump. Still, enoyed the puzzle and hope for more from this pair of puzzlers!
brutus (berkeley)
Surely you jest E, or are you speaking literally. Do you mean a PIT will only bio-degrade in piles or heaps? http://confessionsofacomposter.blogspot.com/2012/08/when-composting-is-fruit-pits.html
Dr W (New York NY)
@MOL Here in NYC composting is not a trivial effort: we have compost collection stations at the major green markets through out the city two or three days a week depending on location. The local avians appreciate them too -- some have to be shooed away to enable depositing such.
Michele Williams (Burnsville, NC)
@Mean Old Lady I quit turning mine and it does great, just takes longer. I'm in zone 6.
Steve L (Chestnut Ridge, NY)
So today, we get anti-energy to go with yesterday's anti-joke.
ADeNA (North Shore)
kNew Neither NEGAWATTS Nor NATE (a Natick) . . . Still finished, fast and fun.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Never read the NATE the Great children's books, but we grew well-acquaiinted with the nickname, since (apparently) there is a great host of people who think it's short for Nathaniel. (It's not.) Our son never corrects anyone....
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
MOL, Do you call your son NATE and people incorrectly think his given name is Nathaniel, or is his given name Nathaniel and people incorrectly call him NATE? (FWIW, I've heard both NATE and Nat as the informal for both Nathaniel and Nathan.)
Anton (Vienna)
Very few Hungarians here to complain about 60 Across, apparently...
David Connell (Weston CT)
@Anton - in a Polish cookbook, it would be gulasz; in a French book, goulasch; in an English cookbook it's goulash. The fact that the folks who invented it call it gulyás doesn't matter in an English-language puzzle. Egészségedre!
Dr W (New York NY)
@David Connell Gesundheit!
suejean (Harrogate, UK)
@Anton , there are a couple of Hungarians who are part of word play. Maybe they will comment.
Michael Brothers (Boone, Iowa)
I was told there would be no math!
Andrew (Ottawa)
Nice Tuesday level puzzle. Some interesting pairings: PJS over PCS. PURSE over SUPER (for anagram fans). AMIE crossing ADIEU. And two of the greatest Canadians, JONI Mitchell and Leonard Cohen. COMPOST BIN and NEGAWATTS made a worthy statement, and who couldn't love George CARLIN and his incredibly witty and perceptive observations? (Thanks, Blue Moon.)
Henry Su (Bethesda, MD)
@Andrew, you missed another notable pairing. For fellow solvers who are still hunting for cryptids from Sunday's puzzle, make sure that what you're spotting isn't just someone dressed in an APE SUIT and running in the woods next to SEATTLE. See https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/bill-could-make-bigfoot-states-official-cryptid/.
MJ (New York)
Very nice Tuesday puzzle. No clumsy clues and and a fun theme.
Bess (NH)
What did people think of the math problem at 3D? Clever folks would note that ONE is readily seen as a solution. Even cleverer folks would note that the pool of three-letter numbers is rather small, and good old JONI narrows it down quickly. But since nobody has accused me of being overly clever, I dove in to solve it the old-fashioned way. I don't get many opportunities to factor quadratics in the wild, so it was a fun little diversion before moving on to the rest of the puzzle. Do pits really compost? I always find several old pits, un-decomposed, in our finished compost. I just toss them into a new pile and hope for the best.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
So, there are at least two of us who have experience with composting....
Frances (Western Mass)
@Mean Old Lady My pits compost. I also leave my pile alone for three years or so while it builds up. I put in bones once I’ve made stock of them. Also clam and oyster shells. There are usually a few hard things to transfer over but I get great stuff out of it.
pmb (California )
@Bess The more math the better, I say
archaeoprof (Jupiter, FL)
What? A puzzle with a COMPOSTBIN theme? Does this pass the breakfast test? Yes, it surely does. The fill in this compost bin was fresh and crisp.
Steve Faiella (Danbury, CT)
Fun puzzle today with a good theme and really no clunkers in the fill. Some of the clueing was even a bit later-in-the-weekish, but crosses were very kind. TIL that NEGAWATTS is now a thing. I'm all for conservation and green initiatives... solar, alternative energies, etc. But what they have done to my toilet in the name of saving a few gallons of water will never be forgiven! :-)
Adeline W. (Baltimore, MD)
Solving alone this morning, so that the Roommate can save on Uber Surge pricing while it's one of my work-from-home days. I surprised myself with solving this one on my own - I was worried when the Acrosses were scant, but picked up steam on the Downs. Maybe she would have known NATE the Great, and saved me about 5+ minutes staring at the puzzle wondering what I had wrong. I had (surprisingly, as a homeowner) never heard of a NEGAWATT. My only other true sticking point was CARLIN for CARSON and ACRE for AREA. BIRD ON A WIRE gave me a small fit until I fixed the latter, and FILECLERK appeared - POOF! - once I fixed the former. I slew the beast, though, proving to myself that I am more fellow Knight than Squire in this puzzling pair.
dk (Saint Croix Falls, WI)
A year after ENRON's collapse there was a similar firm... began with a C I think (call you at 3AM when I recall the name) that a certain investment firm held a major stake in. Said firm then dumped most of the stock on its own customers. Sadly for them a plucky young DOJ employee, fresh from the S&L scandals, noticed a unusual number of small trades... sadly the individual investors got back less than pennies on the dollar. Moral of the story: Think your investment firm is your partner.... think again. As TaraK notes: POOF and this puzzle was done. Thanks Lads, Nice job.
Steve Faiella (Danbury, CT)
@dk 2002 was a HUGE year for accounting scandals (I worked for a Finance Company at the time). There were several energy companies that year that were nailed, but the one with a C you may be thinking of is CMS Energy.
Rich in Atlanta (Clarkston, Georgia)
Smooth solve. Like others, didn't know NEGAWATTS but it made some sense, and I vaguely remember NATE the great from when my kids were younger. As the youngest child, I spent several years in charge of the COMPOST for my mom's tomato garden. I recall coffee GROUNDS and egg SHELLS but really don't remember what else. I believe we just had a pile; I don't recall a bin. I have my own theory regarding SHELLSHOCK. It's not the sound of the explosions; it's waiting for the next one to hit. An old favorite from JONI Mitchell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20 ..
TPB (Guilford, CT)
@Rich in Atlanta And did you ever put pits in your compost? If so, what kind? I never do because they don’t break down fast enough. Enjoyed the puzzle very much!
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
@TPB Now the count is up to three.... RiA: I wanted COMPOST HEAP...
Rich in Atlanta (Clarkston, Georgia)
@TPB I don't recall pits in the compost (but then I don't remember a lot from that far back). The other thing I recall about that little garden area (in addition to the fresh off the vine tomatoes) was earthworms. The place was, well, crawling with them. We mostly fly-fished for trout on streams, but on those occasions when we went bass fishing on a lake it was a ready source of bait.
TaraK (Sheffield, United Kingdom)
When I began doing the NYT crossword, I honestly thought that I was the SLOWEST person to complete these. I sincerely miss those days as now, POOF, it’s done before I even begin to EAT my breakfast. Though you won’t catch me claiming they have EASED over time. Saturday is still an enjoyable dawn to dusker.
Deb Amlen (Wordplay, the Road Tour)
@TaraK Congratulations, Tara, especially since you are on the other side of the pond and may not know some of our cultural references! It's really satisfying to see improvement, don't you think?
Blue Moon (Old Pueblo)
negativeonehalf = 15 letters; future puzzle?
Steve Faiella (Danbury, CT)
@Blue Moon If nothing else it would be fun to clue!
Blue Moon (Old Pueblo)
@Steve Faiella just use the same equation
Blue Moon (Old Pueblo)
@Steve Faiella everybody knows the sum of the roots is -b/a and the product is c/a, or you can factor or use the quadratic formula; Wordplay readers love math!
brutus (berkeley)
As early week solves are want to do, they hardly ever have me walking on egg SHELLS. SHOCKingly, I managed an error of omission by not checking the spelling of the Simpson’s barkeep voiceover artist. That hasty oversight rendered the trendy NEGAWATTS appearing on my grid as negewatts. Some days you get the olives, some the PITs. I will not STEW over a sole blemish but I must remember to check my work more carefully upon completion...I could compile a top-10 list of songs from within today’s puzzle but I will only offer up the usual Tuesday twofer. https://youtu.be/MgvFnPFtXZI https://youtu.be/shu0AYayDGI Bye NOW, Bru
Blue Moon (Old Pueblo)
Here we go. George Carlin mania: "Think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of people are stupider than that." "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." "Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you ... Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure." "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone driving faster than you is a maniac?" "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." "Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body." "I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman where the self-help section was. She said if she told me it would defeat the purpose." "If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." "If you really want to know how to help your children, leave them alone!" "Don't just teach your children to read. Teach them to question what they read. Teach them to question everything." "Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music." "We've added years to life, not life to years." "Most people work just hard enough not to get fired and get paid just enough money not to quit." "Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid."
Liane (Atlanta)
@Blue Moon At least you don't need a storage unit for NEGAWATTS. It's anti-stuff. George would have loved to wrap his head around that word!
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
If I may add a few more: "Weather forecast for tonight: dark." "Just cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town" "When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat." "I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it." "One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor."
Jane Jackel (Montreal, Canada)
@Blue Moon, @Lewis Thanks so much for these, they’re great.
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
This puzzle was punched up by vibrant answers: APE SUIT, PEEL OUT, and NEGAWATTS in the East, and PITBOSS, POOF, and the CARLIN quote in the West (and let me add, bless you, hero of mine George Carlin). And there was hardly an ugly answer to sully the glow. So the puzzle, IMO, has a clean, fresh, and vibrant feel, and was most enjoyable to fill in. Plus, regarding the theme, there was this hidden bonus: 21A backwards -- ROT CORP -- sounds like the name of the compost-collecting company that will eventually show up on the Simpsons.
Paul (Alexandria, VA)
Ms. Chung and Mr. Ni are becoming quite a formidable team. I, too, feel into the MEGAWATTS trap.
suejean (Harrogate, UK)
I found this a bit tougher than most Tuesdays and with an interesting theme which I really liked. I have a big garden and a good sized double COMPOST heap in my back garden and am apparently doing things properly according to Deb's site. As for PEELings, some of those might go into soup stock rather than compost. Some nice variety of fill. NATE the Great popped into my head immediately; who knows how memory works, but it helped with the tricky 31D. I'd like to see more from this pair.
BarbJ (Vancouver, BC)
QB Definitely much, much easier than yesterday! 36/128 1 pangram and a bingo A - 5 - 1x4, 3x5, 1x6 H - 2 - 1x4, 1x8 L - 4 - 3x4, 1x5 M - 21 - 9x4, 8x5, 4x6 N - 2 - 1x4, 1x6 R - 2 - 2x4 Good luck!
Martin (Calfornia)
@BarbJ No O. No bingo. But easier for sure.
Patrick Mcgovern (Yardley, Pa)
Definitely easier than yesterday but I’m still blocked on the pangram!
Wen (Brookline, MA)
@Patrick Mcgovern Maybe you have some kinda biochemical imbalance.
Peter Jackel (British Columbia)
@ADeNA Thanks for your reply about swat and pop a few puzzles ago.
Peter Jackel (British Columbia)
@Barry Ancona I wrote a late reply to one of your comments yesterday.
Peter Jackel (British Columbia)
A great quip by George Carlin. As a Canadian, influenced in so many ways by the USA, television, movies, books, music, sports - you Americans have no idea how your culture has influenced us here in Canada - I have to say that he is encompassing in that quip more than your current president.
michael (maplewood, n.j.)
Any other Cavett crashes @26a?
Loafgren (Finland)
I already had Oregon Trail in place, so my crash was Carrie (because at 6:30 AM that's how I thought Jim's surname was spelled).
Ron (Austin, TX)
@michael The clue for 26A is so applicable to today!
Ian (Hong Kong)
Negawatt is a perfectly good word coined by renowned environmentalist Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute in the late 80s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amory_Lovins He had hair when I met him in the early 90s.While I don't entirely agree with him on wind or nuclear power, he has done a helluva lot to promote sustainable energy. He convinced a power company in Colorado that they could make more money and save more emissions by giving all of their customers new and efficient refrigerators rather than building more power plants. Thus 'negawatts'. Cheers Good puzzle.
Robert (Vancouver Canada)
and Elke By sheer coincidence HAD TO take my little sink PAIL , filled with egg SHELLS, potato PEEL, coffee Grounds and a mango PIT down to the basement garage where our strata keeps our COMPOST BINs. (We also HAVE to separate plastics, glass, newsprint , other paper goods). Only then did I print out the puzzle on paper ( which has been used already on the other side). Anyhoo-had fun with this. Glad that it was JONI- which meant that the math problem became a no-brainer. How ironic that ENRON went with that motto(''Smartest Guys in the Room''). Have crossed at times the OREGON TRAIL, but have not hiked it seriously.Never saw Sasquatch, or even a man in an APESUIT. TSA has not confiscated any RAZORS , but I still miss my tiny ,tiny Swiss army knife, which they took. Being over 75 yrs. means I can keep my shoes on- yea! PS-Martin- how about sharing the family picture of a SARI- an Indian wedding garb ? ADIEU , Au revoir to Amanda et Karl et merci beaucoup.
Ron (Austin, TX)
@Robert What's a "strata?"
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
Ron, In case Elke is not available, please consider RHUD's definition of strata: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/strata
Robert (Vancouver Canada)
Ron and Barry- I answered a couple of minutes ago- it's at the top, i.e. near the 'newest' comments, in a reply to Ron.
JayTee (Kenosha, Wi)
Not the easiest Tuesday ever, but a fair one. Not heard of NEGAWATTS either, but I did know of Nate the Great. The crossings were very helpful for the entries I wasn't sure about.
Mark Josephson (Highland Park)
Throw me in the anti-NEGAWATTS group, as my M at the start was what tripped me up at the end. The comments here clued me into the bad square. Otherwise, a puzzle of appropriate difficulty for a Tuesday.
Morgan (PDX)
But if M were correct, the clue could simply say "Units of power". The "saved, in modern lingo" clearly indicates something less straightforward.
CS (RI)
@Mark Josephson Is that a double NEGAtive?!
Alan J (Durham, NC)
Not a fan of NEGAWATTS as a word. Seems unnecessary, since it simply equates to watts, just negatively. I mean, we've never needed to specify NEGADOLLARS (debt), NEGAYEARS (history), NEGAPOUNDS (weight loss), etc. We just say we owe the dollars, go back the years, and lose the pounds. Why can't we just save the watts? I was going to add something snarky involving such words as NEGABRAIN and NEGANEED, but I'll demur. There's enough NEGABEAUTY in the world already. Just my two pennies. Keep the change.
Henry Su (Bethesda, MD)
@Alan J, I'd not heard of the term either until today but I see it as a witty twist on MEGAWATTS -- change the "M" and "N" (as Letterman would have done on The ELECTRIC Company) and, voila, look at all the energy we can save. A ray of hope in these climatically bleak times. IMHO.
Henry Su (Bethesda, MD)
Oops, meant to type "change the 'M' to an 'N'"
Dave M (Boulder, CO)
In the energy world, negawatts is a well known bit of jargon, but not commonly used. It’s a wordplay on megawatts, the measure of power.
Henry Su (Bethesda, MD)
A nice easy solve, perfect for beginners. And the puzzle is chock full of eco-friendly ideas: carry your discarded items in a PAIL out to the COMPOST BIN, turn your leftovers into a STEW, bid ADIEU to your PCs and TIVO to accumulate NEGAWATTS, and instead take a hike on the OREGON TRAIL or in the Olympic rainforests outside SEATTLE. Changing subjects for the moment, if anyone else is completing the puzzles featured in the Archives, the 08/16/12 Thursday puzzle nicely features an isle in England that was recently the subject of much discussion on Wordplay....
Henry Su (Bethesda, MD)
... instead take a hike avec ton AMIE on the ...
Rod D (Chicago)
I disagree about it being an easy solve, Henry. I’ve never heard of a NEGAWATT before, and Mate seemed like a reasonable, though odd, name for a boy detective.
Henry Su (Bethesda, MD)
@Rod D, sorry to hear about your mix-up with MEGAWATT, and apparently you were not alone. What saved me was the fact that my children grew up reading the NATE the Great series, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_the_Great. I highly recommend these classics if you have any children or grandchildren (or nieces/nephews) in the appropriate age range.
B.D. (Boston)
Loved “NEGAWATTS” !! AND Leonard Cohen!! Thanks for the inspo!!
Peter Jackel (British Columbia)
@B.D. I'm always glad to be reminded of Leonard Cohen and of the 1960's when I walked home on a wintry Toronto night in the late 60's or very early 70's in state of ecstasy having earlier listened to him for the first time. And "negawatts" - what a lovely concept.
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
The theme was right on time for me. Just this morning I made the household compost delivery to Union Square (where it is collected on Greenmarket days). No garden, and no space in the kitchen for a COMPOST BIN, so we bag it in small bags and pop them in the freezer until run time. https://www.grownyc.org/compost
GreenGirl NYC (New York NY)
@Barry Ancona Me too :)
Ron (Austin, TX)
@Barry Ancona No garden as well, but here we have curb-side kitchen-waste collection each week. I picked up our emptied cart just this morning. (Kinda silly -- the cart is 32 gallons -- way bigger than need be!)
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
Ron, New York City already provides curbside compost collection for 3.5 million residents. They started with single family homes and smaller multiple dwellings. The voluntary program for larger apartment buildings will eventually be mandatory. (I used to take my newspapers to a community recycling point.) https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/dsny/site/services/food-scraps-and-yard-waste-page/overview-residents-organics
Nic Terrenato (Ann Arbor )
Is the author one of the Knights Who Say Ni ?
Paul (NY)
@Nic Terrenato they no longer say ni
Kelpurnia (Portland OR)
@Paul I’ll BITe: What do they say now?
Puzzlemucker (New York)
Leonard Cohen on Tuesday. Thank you, Amanda and Karl.
Liz B (Durham, NC)
Yeah, NEGAWATTS was new for me, too. Autocorrect doesn't like it. It was interesting filling in the theme answers and trying to figure out what the theme was going to be, and I liked seeing the two extra-long verticals that pinned the puzzle sections together. Durham Wordplayers are planning a get-together around Christmas, probably lunch or a late-morning coffee break type of thing. We'll post something more here once we figure out a date/time/place. In the meantime, if anyone else in the Durham/Triangle/Central NC area would like to connect with our Google Group, you can go to Alan J's website at http://www.arjentium.com/index.php?pg=contactus and send a message--we'll add you to the group. Please put Durham Wordplay in the subject line.
Deb Amlen (Wordplay, the Road Tour)
@Liz B You have no idea how much I love the fact that people get together because of Wordplay. To me, that's the essence of what solving together is all about -- making friends along the way. Hope I get to see some photos of your lunch!
Liane (Atlanta)
NEGAWATTS-- that's a thing? Who knew. Redeemed by the appearance of two of my favorite comedians, George CARLIN and Hank AZARIA. Brockmire, my friends, watch and see! Super fast Tuesday puzzle, 2.5 minutes below my average for Tuesday.