Somali Pirates, a Kidnapping, Then a Facebook Message

Nov 09, 2018 · 23 comments
Tadeusz Patzek (Saudi Arabia)
No one seems to remember that the Somali pirates used to be fishermen, until their livelihoods were destroyed by the Chinese and European super trawlers that plundered the Somali fisheries. The land support of the pirates consists mostly of their extended families. When will the red-blooded Americans learn that sending 15,000 troops to a foreign country with zero understanding of the causes of conflict leads to another Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, just to name a few. Millions of lives and trillions of dollars were lost pursuing this imperial insanity. If you want to get rid of the root causes of piracy, start sinking the foreign trawlers illegally operating in the Somali waters.
Nate (London)
If Mr. Moore has forgiven Mr. Tahlil and they have put the whole thing behind them, then the government should stay out of it.
Greg Tutunjian (Newton,MA)
Instead of sending 1,500 troops to our Southern Border we would serve The World (and ourselves) better if we sent 15,000 troops to eradicate pirates and their land-based support.
William Smith (United States)
@Greg Tutunjian Last time that happened..."Black Hawk Down!...We have a Black Hawk Down!" Such a great book and movie. Navy Admiral had a vendetta against the Somali Warlord at the time and it went south.
Marc Sandon (Los Angeles)
I love it how we go across the globe and arrest & kidnap the captor but no one thinks that is strange. I am not suggesting he should not be punished but I wonder if it is legal to abduct a person without due process.
Johnnie (Chicago)
@Marc Sandon I thought from this report that we don't know the place or circumstances of the kidnapper's arrest. Did I miss something?
Bob (Pennsylvania)
My colleagues in psychiatry would have a wonderful and stimulating time discussing this case in a clinical conference. Amazing what the human mind will do to devise a balm for terrible life experiences! Such mechanisms range from organized religions and philosophy to this sort of thing.
Bermuda (San Jose)
I don't understand your comment, Bob. Who is "devising the balm for terrible life experiences"?
Alex (Minneapolis, MN)
@Bermuda the victim is, by developing empathy for his captor
Bermuda (San Jose)
Thank you, Alex. I'm not sure that Moore's behavior was that surprising. Moore didn't adopt him into his family or give him money or convert to Tahlil's cause. He just wrote back. Maybe he did so to lure Tahlil into custody. Anyway, Moore and Tahlil did a form a mutual relationship -- even in evil circumstances. And Tahlil showed some mercy to Moore even though Tahlil was making money from a diabolical enterprise and culpable himself.
Npeterucci (New York)
Nothing but respect for Mr. Moore. He is a compassionate person. In regards to his captor. Throw away the key.
Andrew (Former Colony)
But Mr Moore doesn’t want him to be locked up forever... it does not appear that he was a leader of the criminal behavior. Would you consider Mr Moore’s preferences?
Dave Warner (Atlanta,Ga)
Blame is for God and small children. We all have it in us to be ruthless. There is a movie in here but it would need to be made with an understanding that we are all just passing through this world, some of us having been dealt a better hand than others.
Shereena (LA)
@Dave Warner- there is one- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2216240/ it is good movie.
Mike (NJ)
There used to be a comic book hero called the Phantom whose task was to kill all pirates. The US wiped out piracy on the Barbary Coast a couple of hundred years ago. Looks like the operation has moved south and needs to be dealt with in like fashion.
Justin (Seattle)
@Mike Yeah! Invading Somalia went so well the first time that I sure can’t think of any reason that we shouldn’t give it another go...
Barbyr (Northern Illinois)
I regret to say I found his book so completely chaotic as to be unreadable. If you can follow his narrative, you're a better reader than I.
Meenal Mamdani (Quincy, Illinois )
Is this Stockholm syndrome? If this Somali man was the head of the group that guarded Mr Moore, he could have tipped off the authorities so Mr Moore could have been rescued. Is the captor looking to emigrate to the US using his victim’s feelings of gratitude for the kindness shown to him by the captor during the long period of captivity?
Rhporter (Virginia )
Hunh? The guy was arrested and is in US jail. Your musings bear no relation to the facts in the article, tho I grant his behavior is odd
cheryl (yorktown)
Fascinating. An utterly terrifying kidnapping, by desperate and ruthless pirates, followed by a Facebook exchange. I hope that Mr. Moore is allowed some role in sentencing, when that occurs (if that occurs). Part of me thinks we could learn a lot about these Somalis from this man; but -- it doesn't matter; they are outlaws, but outlaws who are powerless and stateless. Compare him to the Saudi Prince who kidnaps and kills at will, yet is still treated as part of the civilized world. What is the difference?
ZHR (NYC)
@cheryl "they are outlaws, but outlaws who are powerless and stateless;" Are you certain you don't have the Stockholm syndrome?
Timothy Phillips (Hollywood, Florida)
Our government has been involved in extraordinary renditions that have involved torture and death of some innocent people. What is the difference? The difference is that there is nobody to hold certain people accountable.
max (NY)
@Timothy Phillips The difference of course is that our government was protecting us, whether or not you agree with their methods. Pirates kidnap and torture people for ransom.