5 Things to Watch in New York’s Primary Elections

Sep 13, 2018 · 67 comments
Nick S (New Jersey)
Nixon likely won’t beat CUOMO for any number of reasons. Money and servitude play a monstrous role in NYS politics as recent history has shown . Hard to beat the house. Nonetheless, this may be Cuomos last stand. Why? For years I have been a fan of his father but gradually sensed that the son just doesn’t fill the shoes. I can’t shake the feeling that he’s as upright and upstanding as was Mario. There’s that slimy underside that pokes through every now and then that turns me off, maybe it’s just that I’m not accustomed to hearing a politician that tries so hard to be squeaky clean and in favor of everything that anyone wants. Quite unbelievable to me. But then, I grew up in Hudson County NJ
NYC Dweller (NYC)
I miss the old voting machines. I felt like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain.
Martha (NYC)
I just voted for the candidates who gave the most animal rights favorable comments in a detailed questionnaire sent to them, in interviews, in past actions and decisions for animals beholden to the desires of humans. Here is a post from Voters for Animal Rights: "We make endorsements based on many factors such as questionnaire, interview, recommendations, background research, win-ability and political landscape. In the race for AG, Zephyr did not reply to the questionnaire. Tish James did, plus she has a long history of taking on tough fights for animal rights such carriage horses and circus animals. In Tish's own words: "I believe our state has the responsibility to go even further by banning puppy mills outright. We should also bar the sale of dogs and cats in pet stores since many of these animals are bred in inhumane conditions. I supported the ban on circus animals -- a measure that I’m proud to say is now law in NYC. And as Attorney General, I will use the powers of the office to support these efforts and more to ensure that the rights of animals are respected in New York State. As Attorney General, I will also push to expand the existing Animal Protection Initiative by seeking authority to not just enforce the Pet Lemon Law and other laws protecting consumers and domestic animals, but also more specific authority to directly enforce animal cruelty laws in New York.""
Swithin (New York)
I voted for Mr. Cuomo. I like Ms. Nixon, but I've had enough of celebrity politicians. I long for an old-fashioned elected official who more or less comes up through the ranks. And I believe, in the hopefully unlikely event that a crisis were to hit New York, that Andrew Cuomo would be the best one to deal with it. Voting for Governor is not just about finding someone who is perfectly in synch with your political views, or even about that tired old idea of sending a message to establishment politicians. It's a bigger job than that. Cuomo is in synch enough with my views, and his experience far outclasses that of his opponent.
Milton Lewis (Hamilton Ontario)
Although CN has no significant experience at running anything NY State voters may want to deliver a message to establishment politicians like Cuomo.His failure to personally take responsibility for the false charge that CN was anti-Semitic was cowardly on his part. A full personal apology was required. Voters may be fed up with Cuomo’s sense of entitlement.
Milton Lewis (Hamilton Ontario)
@Milton Lewis. I guess not.
Anahit (NYC)
The voting station was a complete mess. Nobody knew what was going on and they admitted to not having the slightest clue. Six people couldn't find my name (again), asking me to spell it 15 times!!! Finally someone gave me a democratic affidavid ballot to fill out even though I told them 5 times I'm an Independent. After I filled it out, and asked why didn't they give me an independent affidavit ballot, they first said that Independents are automatically pooled in with Democrats but as I pressed for a better answer the guy finally realized that they were gave me a wrong one. By then it was too late to fill out the right one. In other words... twilight zone. Independent voters were not given the right affidafid ballot and their votes were NOT counted. Absolute disaster!
colettecarr (Queens)
@Anahit You can’t vote in this primary as an independent. Your problem is you don’t know how primaries work in NYS.
New World (NYC)
I prefer Cuomo (who I despise) to be governor over Nixon. None the less I voted for Nixon to send a message to Cuomo that he needs to be pulled to the left. Yup. I voted for Nixon.
Eileen Paget (Syracuse NY)
Huh. Sounds like the justification many Brits used when they voted for Brexit: Just wanted to send a message, didn't think it would possibly pass.
Mickeyd (NYC)
I wonder how many others voted for Trump. I added the tag, "crook" in two races.
HKGuy (Hell's Kitchen)
Here in the South Bronx, very heavy turnout. Had to wait 15 minutes in line. Everyone I spoke with had voted Nixon.
Nycpol (NYC)
Apparently, extremely low turnout where I voted. One of the poll workers said more people voted in the past when only judges were on the ballot. Could Nixon get a larger percentage than most predict?
SR (Bronx, NY)
Voted hours ago. There were others, but no long line or whatnot. I don't see a Nixon win 'round my area. I've heard not one want her, and the few among the many who live here who've said anything want Cuomo. But anything can happen here. Those who care will vote today, and those who care would rather NOT answer random phone numbers in case they're a poll, lest the spammers bite.
Brett (Minneapolis)
Do these polls adjust for the relative fractions of Republicans/Democrats/Independents that still have landlines?
Kanaka (Sunny South Florida)
Upstate New York's polling places don't open until noon?! That's ridiculous.
polymath (British Columbia)
"The intrigue in New York starts at the top: Can Cynthia Nixon defy the polls and deprive Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of a third nomination?" It's scary to think how we would all be left in the dark if this newspaper didn't suggest such smart and innovative ideas as watching to see who wins an election.
JaneF (Denver)
New York has one of the lowest voter turnout in the country because of the lack of early voting, the multiple primaries and the shorter voting hours upstate. Colorado has one of the highest rates because of mail in ballots, early voting, a single primary for both state and federal offices and the ease of registration.
Patriot (America)
@JaneF I've wanted mail in ballots, early voting, a single primary for years. Simpler, fairer voting in New York would make it easier to push against Republican disenfranchisement of minority voters throughout the nation.
Julie (East End of NY)
@JaneF Absolutely. Gov. Cuomo has had ample opportunity to make our NY politics more participatory. Why hasn't he?
sunzari (nyc)
To supplement my previous comment, yes her political experience may be thin, but perhaps that can be a good thing. Just because Trump was a political novice and failed (before he even started) doesn't mean she will. She's not a raving lunatic like he is and has the intelligence and discernment to listen to what constituents need - at least that is what I've learned from her knowing very little about her and not really following her as a celebrity. And I can't say that I identify as a liberal but I appreciate her effort and sincerely think her hard work in the campaign will translate to political office. If you're going to try and compare someone to Trump, I would think Cuomo would be a better analogy given his questionable ETHICS. The Times' editorial itself made a stink about this and yet still endorsed him - I found that hypocritical. Finally, I don't think her background as an actress should be held against her. If she surrounds herself with the right team that can bring her up to speed and compensate for that part of the job, I think she might be able to get some solid progressive policies implemented. My personal interest is in the MTA and expanding subway service and improving ridership. But I'm sure that'll be fixed at around the same time that construction will stop on the BQE...
marrtyy (manhattan)
@sunzari Nixon has never been able to explain her positions. And has never/ever risen above name-calling. Very Trump like. The name-calling acts as a distraction. Even today she's still at it.
catherine (NYC)
If nothing else, Nixon's campaign has forced Cuomo to actually act like a democrat instead of softly aligning himself with upstate Republicans. should he be re-elected, cuomo's mandate will be greatly diminished
Father Of Two (New York)
Funny, if someone contacted me to poll me, I hung up on them. So I’m not counted.
RLS (PA)
Hoping that progressive candidates do well today, but we have a democracy problem with our vote-counting system. It has been outsourced to a handful of private rightwing companies that count our votes in "secret” with "proprietary software." Is it a coincidence that statistical and pattern evidence from exit polls indicates that vote counts are being shifted to the right? Germany, Ireland, Norway, and the Netherlands went back to counting ballots by hand after realizing the vulnerabilities with computerized voting. In 2009, Germany's Constitutional Court "upheld the basic principle of the public nature of democratic elections" and ruled that the "vote count must be something the public can authenticate." A must-read on computerized voting: https://tinyurl.com/y9xx63f6 “Two major events have paved the way for this lethal form of election manipulation: the mass adoption of computerized voting technology, and the outsourcing of our elections to a handful of corporations that operate in the shadows, with little oversight or accountability. “This privatization of our elections has occurred without public knowledge or consent, leading to one of the most dangerous and least understood crises in the history of American democracy. We have actually lost the ability to verify election results.” Authoritarian governments count their votes in secret, not democracies. Europe Rejects Digital Voting Machines https://tinyurl.com/yczjwo64 #HandCountedBallotsNow
RLS (PA)
Joseph Stalin: “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." This is not what democracy like: Victoria Collier points out (see link above) that “Election Day is dominated by a handful of secretive corporations with interlocking ownership, strong partisan ties to the far right, and executives who revolve among them like beans in a shell game.” The Emmy nominated HBO documentary: Hacking Democracy https://tinyurl.com/y7mydv7z In 2000, Al Gore received “negative 16,022 votes” in Volusia County, Florida. Susan Berniker, a Republican candidate in Louisiana, tested 15 touchscreen voting machines after her race. When she selected her name, the name of another candidate appeared on the screen. California banned Diebold’s touchscreen machines before the 2004 election for flaws that the company failed to disclose. After the 2004 presidential election, the Green Party and Libertarian Party candidates requested an audit of the machines in Ohio. The ballots arrived in two groups: Kerry and Bush. Two Board of Elections employees were convicted of “pre-counting the ballots.” Computer expert Harri Hursti hacked a Diebold machine without leaving a trace. Victoria Collier interview regarding her Harper’s cover story “How to Rig an Election” https://tinyurl.com/y8jg6a2e “Democratic elections require a transparent vote-counting process. If we don’t have transparency, we don’t have democratic elections.”
Julia (Ann Arbor, MI)
From the cheap seats in Michigan, I'm rooting for Ms. Nixon.
honeybluestar (nyc)
I am an MD who would really like national single payer. but I saw Cynthia Nixon say on the TV that she would implement single payer in NY first and "figure out how to pay for it later" If I did not hear that idiotic statement with my own ears I would have assumed it was a smear. She is a sloganeering entitled celeb with no clue how to govern. Cuomo is flawed but not an imbecile in regard to governing: he tightened gun controls, supported gay marriage and gay rights and plans to protect abortion rights--- enough for me.
Garrett (NYC)
@honeybluestar Yes, Cuomo did those things, but only because progressives held his feet to the fire. I'd rather give someone new and (so far) ethical, like Nixon, a chance to prove herself. Cuomo has already proved himself unethical.
HKGuy (Hell's Kitchen)
@honeybluestar So what? She know it won't pass the Legislature anyway. What's important is that someone finally advocates for it at all.
BassGuyGG (Melville, NY)
Please everybody, VOTE TODAY! That said, I am deeply concerned about the lack of information available about candidates on the downballot races, such as judges and such. How am I supposed to make an informed vote if I can't find anything about them? I emailed the League of Women Voters. Nada. There must be information about every candidate on the ballot. Another practice I find extremely annoying is when judges run on multiple parties. We deserve a choice!
Christopher Hawtree (Hove, Sussex, England)
Polls are increasingly out of touch, partly because cellphones are not listed and many now do not have a landline. Here in Hove last year I did well by betting that it would be a hung Parliament - no overall control. One pollster, Lord Ashcroft, who has spent much of his fortune on polls, had said that if I believed that then there were firms that would give me very good odds. He was duly gracious when my political horse won at 5-1. I had found - partly by standing as a Green candidate at the 2015 Election (I came third and beat the better-funded Ukip) and by looking through key seats - that a hung Parliament was likely - a particular seat being Hastings, where the Home Secretary clung on by 300 votes (I had thought /bet she might lose, as she would have done had there not been a disaffected Labour member standing as an independent and got 500 votes). Such no-overall-control results are being seen across the world. All of which is to say that it looks like being a bumpy night in New York.
NMM (New York, NY)
Some NYers heading for the primary voting booth are in for a surprise when they are turned away today. Do you know if you hoped to vote in the primary this year, but changed your party affiliation or affiliated yourself with a party for the first time after October 2017, you will not be eligible to vote in this year's primary? NY has one of the most restrictive policies in the nation. My son, who has been registered as an independent for many years, registered as a Democrat for the first time in May and could not vote in the primary. In the age of computers, there is absolutely no excuse for this unless it is to suppress turn out, discourage voting in the primaries and bolster incumbents. No wonder nothing ever changes in Albany--you can't get them out of there.
Philip Richman (New York City)
@NMM This is an important reason to vote today! If the Democrats can gain control of the Senate there is hope for changing the voting rules in New York State. That will never happen with the GOP in control, or if there are "Democrats" like former IDC members who have shown they can be bought off. The IDC is nothing but a DARK MONEY MACHINE (for GOP and Real Estate). The candidates to vote for if you want to get ex IDC members out of office are: John Liu, Jessica Ramos, Zelnor Myrie, Jasmine Robinson, Robert Jackson, Alessandra Biaggi, Julie Goldberg, Rachel May. Even better if you can vote for Blake Morris to unseat Simcha Felder in Brooklyn.
Karen (Brooklyn)
@NMM Yes, same situation for me. I switched from Independent to Democrat in June, and then received notification that the change will not take affect until November 13; total corruption!
AutumLeaff (Manhattan)
Wake up every one, it’s election day! The choice is a governor that despite it all is getting things done. Things you can see and experience. Or some one new who has no experience, who wants to double the budget and has no plan on how to pay for all the things she’s offering. But omg, she’s super popular because of the kind of bagels she likes. Your choice, I know mine. The job is Governor of the State of New York. Think about it. NY State is one of the largest world wide economies. Are you turning it over to some one who has no idea of how to finance what she promised, or some one who can and is getting the work done. No one will ever do the job perfectly, no one. Things are better now than when Tamany Hall was running the show, but this is politics, it's a dirty business since those days; idealism only gets you so far. Choose well.
Nico (Wynn)
Repubs are dying for Nixon to get the nomination because they think it will provide best shot at reclaiming governorship since 2002. They are right. I’d admire Nixon and hopes this is only the start of her political career, but too much at risk to gamble away Cuomo despite his flaws.
Philip Richman (New York City)
@Nico Yes, but make sure you also vote for Jumaane Williams for Lieutenant Governor. His opponent has promised to be just a cheerleader for Andrew Cuomo. Williams will keep the very able, but easily corruptible Cuomo honest.
Dan Fannon (On the Hudson River)
Sean Patrick Maloney is the only real, workable choice for Progressives. The conventional wisdom is that the progressive banner holder in the AG race is Teachout - Why? - because she has all the approved talking points. But the hard truth is that she has never held public office, ran a lousy campaign in NY19 which handed the district to the Republicans, and as an academic, she’s been a member of the NY Bar for less than a month, and has never been in a courtroom or run a law office. The office of AG is not about talk, it’s about experience in actually getting progressive ideas to work in government, and this year, it's essential that our AG agressively defend the rights of New Yorkers against the coming onslaughts of the Trump administration and a rabidly-conservative Supreme Court. The only one who actually has made those policies work is Sean Maloney in his years in Congress. We all want an AG that will fight as if his/her life depends on it. As an openly gay man with a mixed-cultural family, he has more skin in the game than any of the other candidates. If the SC negates gay marriage and shoots down Affirmative Action, the people he loves the most lose the most. No other candidate has as much at stake as Sean and will take the fight more personally. If you believe that it's best to vote on what candidates DO as opposed to what they SAY – then Sean Maloney is the only real choice for a progressive vote.
DLNYC (New York)
@Dan Fannon He cannot claim to be the only "real" progressive given his history with financial industry donors and his legislative history. In addition, during John Boehner's Fall 2013 government shutdown in an effort to kill Obamacare, when Democrats were holding strong together, Maloney sided with the Republicans in votes 11 times and was one of only 7 Democrats who voted for rules changes that gave extraordinary powers to then majority leader Eric Cantor to prevent Democrats from forcing votes the GOP didn't want. I would support him in opposition to any Republican, but we have three much better choices here.
Garrett (NYC)
@Dan Fannon Only people in the real estate industry think this guy is a progressive. He is marinating in their money.
NYC BD (New York, NY)
I don't like Cuomo at all but I do not believe that Nixon is remotely qualified to run this state. Succeeding in Albany involves the ability to compromise, negotiate and influence people. She has no experience doing any of these things, so would be unable to push through any of her agenda. We are fortunate to have a number of great candidates for Attorney General. I'm sorry only one can win - I wish one of them had run for governor as they would be better than Cuomo and Nixon.
Carl LaFong (NY)
There are things about Cuomo that just rub me the wrong way. His shutdown of the Moreland Commission when the corruption probe got too close to his friends in Albany, the conviction of his close ally that Cuomo claims he knew nothing about his corrupt practices (if you're in charge, you are supposed to know everything), the anti-Semitic flyer about Nixon, and the rush job to open the new bridge formerly known as the Tappan Zee (not to mention the naming of the bridge after his father). It's sad because I also don't think Nixon is qualified to handle the job as Governor, either.
Thomas Renner (New York)
Yes, Como is part of the political machine however he hates Trump and has done good things for NY. I like his infrastructure work and he represents the whole state. Nixon has no experience except acting and her campaign seems like she is running for mayor. Compared got my vote.
Thomas Renner (New York)
@Thomas Renner should read Como got my vote.
GG (Manhattan)
I think it should read Cuomo got my vote.
Beatrix (PA)
Mixed feelings about race from here in Philadelphia, but can someone explain why New York seems to have 2 primaries. Wasn't there one a month ago when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez pulled off her shocker? Why another one? Another one of those NYC does things one way and the state does it another?
Sam Rosenberg (Brooklyn, New York)
@Beatrix It's a whole NY State thing, not a NYC thing. We do our federal primaries (for the House and the Senate) and our state primaries (for State Senate, Governor, etc.) at different times. From what I understand, it's because New York State election policy was largely created by Tammany Hall back in the late 1800s.
Robert I (Astoria, N.Y.)
Can someone also explain to me why in New York State the Lieutenant Governor and Gubernatorial candidates run separately during the primary, but winners share a ticket during the general election? (Instead of Cuomo/Hochul or Nixon/Williams, Democrats could end up with a Cuomo/Williams or Nixon/Hochul Ticket in November.) Not having done the research, I assume this is an archaic law from the New York State Constitution / Tammany Hall era that probably should be updated. (To all those who told me to vote No in 2017 on a New York Constitutional Convention, I would especially like to hear your comments.)
Philip Richman (New York City)
@Robert I Actually, this could be a very good difference between New York and the country as a whole. New York State doesn't have to deal with foreign policy, military and separate fiscal units like the Federal Government does. So it is a good thing to have a Lieutenant Governor who has a mind of his/her own to be a check on the Governor's worst instincts. Check it out: Huchel promises to be a rubber stamp, Jumaane Williams promises to keep Cuomo honest. I really think that Williams would bring out the best part of Cuomo's abilities.
Barrett (California)
sunzari - good for you, trust your gut. Nixon has done a great job of exposing Cuomo's corruption, and there is much more that will come out as she takes power. This IS the election season to VOTE for change, upset the status quo by electing NIXON. The country looks to your state to lead us out of this mess.
AutumLeaff (Manhattan)
@Barrett This is NY State, this is one of the largest economies in this world. Nixon has zero experience. None. You do not hand the keys to the car to some one who has never driven before. All your ideas mean nothing when this huge economy is at stake. We should not tun over this booming economy and all the people in the state to some one 'cos she's popular with keyboard warriors in California. We need some one who can get the job done, and she is not it.
Sally Coffee Cup (NYC)
Wait Barrett in California. We in New York are expecting California to lead us out of this mess. Don’t disappoint and we will do our part.
GG (Manhattan)
Anyone who proposes doubling the state budget without elaborating how that will be paid for is incapable of driving anywhere but off a cliff. Nixon should start in a non executive position - where she can run her mouth off but, lacking responsibility for implementation, not do any harm.
John Ramey (Da Bronx)
Upstate New York polls open at 12 Noon? Really? Who came up with that absurd and seemingly corrupt plan?
Susan (New York)
@John Ramey It is the counties that determine when the polls will be open and it is about cost.
Rescue2 (Brooklyn, NY)
For Lieutenant Governor we must not cast a vote for Jumaane Williams. Although I have voted for him each time that he ran for city council, he has left me utterly disappointed. Mr. Williams, while holding press conferences about problems our district faces has done nothing concrete to help the residents of Flatbush. He is all talk and no action. Numerous emails to his office are regularly ignored. He is Pro-Life. This is not the type of person that we need in Albany.
honeybluestar (nyc)
@Rescue2 pro-life an Ms Nixon is campaigning with him? Duh?
Rescue2 (NYC)
Honey Bluestar: Yes she is. Although Mr. Williams is pro-life he doesn't vote that way. Still we should know why we would be getting. And like I said, Williams has done NOTHING for his district except for photo ops when it serves him. I should know, he is my council member.
S H (New York)
Those who are thinking about electing a celebrity with no experience for an executive position like governor should recall that voters did that in the vote for the president in 2016 with absolutely disastrous results. We need experience and skills in Albany and sex in the city. Cuomo is the right choice.
U J (NYC)
@S H I don't think your argument is sound. In spite of Trump's inexperience, his administration has been very effective. So if a Gov. Nixon were to be as effective as the Trump administration, she should be able to accomplish a lot.
Heath (NYC)
@S H I think it's unfair to say Nixon has no experience besides acting. She's been involved in advocacy since the early 2000's. Some of the causes she's been involved with include public education, LGBTQ rights, reproductive rights, and woman's rights. There's a NYT article titled "Cynthia Nixon. Parent. Activist. Governor?" that goes into her background.
rabbit3034 (Bronx, NY)
@U J Effective in doing what? Giving corporations tax cuts, while employees go on food stamps? Increasing ICE budget, while decreasing FEMA budget? What happens when Carolina asks for help? The Feds step in - small government is a joke when states ask for help, especially from NC that passed a law denying climate change reports. If Nixon wins the nomination, Republican Molinaro will win governor.
sunzari (nyc)
I didn't think I'd feel this way but I am actually leaning towards Nixon. There is something fishy and "mafia-esque" about Cuomo's campaign, tactics and overall bravado that I think puts him out of touch with everyday New Yorkers. Ms. Nixon's has her feet in the trenches, and at the very least I will know she will take her role very seriously and not waver from her convictions.
rabbit3034 (Bronx, NY)
@sunzari Sadly, I somewhat agree regarding Governor Cuomo, because of all the corruption scandal coming out of his office. It would have been nice to believe that the Cuomo family (father/sons) is dedicated to service to this state, but politics corrupt. But I also agree with @S H about voting an inexperienced candidate into office. Will they accomplish much to help the state, and not just NYC? The majority of the state is not like NYC - and tends to vote Republican. Plus, with Nixon taking the nomination, most likely Molinaro will win state.
Sparky (NYC)
@sunzari. I am not a Cuomo fan, and would have happily voted for another qualified democrat. But, in all honesty, Ms. Nixon's only credential is that she played Miranda on a seminal New-York based TV show. To say her political experience is thin, is to insult the word thin. That she felt entitled to try out politics by being governor of a state of 20 million people show's a Trumpian self-regard and narcissism. I hope Ms. Nixon stays in politics. But starting at the top is neither in her interest or ours.
vmur (ny)
@sunzari Nixon knows nothing about everyday New Yorkers, and by New Yorkers I mean the ones outside Manhattan including the ones upstate such as in ITHACA which her campaign didn't even know how to correctly spell. And sorry, but marijuana should be the least of her concerns. There are much larger fish to fry.