U.K. Poisoning Inquiry Turns to Russian Agency in Mueller Indictments

Some of the comments reveals a dangerous level of disengagement with reality, I can safely say; Trump is going to waltz back into the White House in 2020. The russian interference obviously went deeper than the election, it has warped your minds and left them incoherent and unable to process information...please, please, wake up!!

Turn intelligence foot soldiers? Turn a head of state.

The Russians? No,because according to trump, putin is a good guy.

All persons with modest knowledge of chemical industry know that samples from production batches are routinely held in a library for future use. Additionally, there are variations between production lots that could, depending upon the variances, appear to distract less knowledgeable from the reality that the chemical is, in fact, from the same origin. Given Putin's bold lie about no Russian involvement in the attempt of the former Russian agent and his blaming unspecified other non-Russians, it would be helpful to Putin's lie to have another murder by the same chemical, but of a different production from years ago that would confuse the investigators. In short, the toxin will be found to be Russian origin and from the same production facility. Putin's finger prints will be established by way of modern analytical equipment that analyze to the PPB and establish factual basis for this claim.

Ten days ago The Guardian ran a story called "If the novichok was planted by Russia, where’s the evidence?". It outlined very clearly how there has to date been literally zero evidence to support the theory that it was Russia/Putin. Of course it was totally ignored.

"The military intelligence service suspected of disrupting the 2016 election in the U.S. may be behind the poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter in England." That means, in both cases we really don't know anything. But you have to keep repeating it ad infinitum, before we actually know what happened.

This is a warning, to Donald, to keep end his end of the deal, for the millions they've laundered through the Trump organization. They seem to be getting their money's worth, as he is destabilizing the western world and destroying the United States. The Russians have a way of dealing with people they feel have betrayed them. So the entire Trump family might find themselves poisoned by the same "nerve agent" used in London. If they can get to a former Russian agent, and his daughter, in London. Trump and his family are no safer, where they hope to hide. This threat, that Trump lives under, might have something to do with his treasonous behavior.

Trump is the LAST person that anyone would want to "divvy up the world" with the Russians. That seems to be the opinion of the Russians in Helsinki right now. Since his minority Electoral aberration in 2016 he has been pursuing his quest to be like Putin, Xi and Kim - an absolute ruler. Sorry Dotard, WE are a Democracy and there is no place for your narcissistic sociopathy here. If you continue to pursue this avenue of TREASON, you will face the consequences, Trumplicans not withstanding.

Russian intelligence has been doing this for a hundred years. Only now does the western intelligentsia choose to take notice.

Still Mr. Trump refuses to believe the Russians interfered with our elections, let alone all the other things they have done recently, including these incidents and Crimea and backing Russian agitators in Ukraine. Mr. Trump seems to have become our biggest national security threat.

I wonder what the reward would be right now for a GRU defector who had the goods on Guccifer 2.0, the Skripal assassination attempt, and other Russian intelligence activities? I imagine it would be substantial.

It really feels at this point that Trump and Putin have won. There is such an avalanche of horrific conjectures and facts that each subsequent story renders the precious facts less and less meaningful. One day our children will ask us how did this happen, what did we see, what did we do? I ask all of you; what will you say?

No one has ever been sickened and died from Donald John Trump, Sr. tweeting and speaking slurs against his "enemies". Trump is no Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

Sorry but as soon as an ex-KGB agent in England keeled over due to a nerve toxin used by Russian armed forces, it was clear as day that Putin ordered his death. The later poisonings were either accidental collateral damage, or the patsy that planted the toxin on the door handle. There's no "may be" or "suspected" about this, this was Putin doing what he does, assassinating someone that displeases him. On the bright side for Americans, Trump hasn't reached this level of tyranny, and so far we need not worry about getting ricin poisoning due to dissent, and so on. On the dark side, Trump's favorite world leader is Putin, he seeks to become something like him, and if we don't get a 2020 election I'd expect assassinations like this to happen to our dissidents before long.

Somebody like Bruce Ivins at Porton Down could just as believably been responsible. Bruce Ivins was the disgruntled scientist at the American biological weapons research facility at Camp Detrick, Maryland who refined and sent anthrax spores across the USA in the mail.

Ockam's razor indicates that the poison originated in Britain and was used by this couple for some purpose. It's time to put up a sign saying "No Russians were involved in the production of this farce."

As I watch Putin speaking in Helsinki, the news ticker is sharing this story. The irony here is so thick that you could pour on pancakes.

Did not they identify the suspects 3 months ago? Didn't they say the suspect left the UK? So, how did this bottle get in the house of this guy?

After the recent poisoning of that British couple it should become much easier for the British Intelligence officers to identify the persons who committed this crime. It was first expected that this couple got poisoned by coming into contact with novichok that the Russians left somewhere behind, for instance in a park. But several days ago the British police announced that a bottle containing novichok was found in the house of this couple. As one can reasonably assume that this couple didn't have the means to produce novichok themselves, the British police should strongly concentrate their efforts on the question who put that bottle in their house. I myself am not an intelligence officer at all but it looks to me that finding out who put a bottle of novichok in a certain house is a much easier task than to find out who left some unused novichok behind somewhere in an unknown public space. With some luck we should soon know the identity of these criminals.

I used to love MAD magazine's Spy vs. Spy entries, and have long been a fan of Robert Ludlum and John LeCarre. However, it was because these captured my imagination as fiction. Unfortunately, the intrigue today is all too real, and the US, especially under Trump, does not seem fully capable of mitigating the effects. As we insult and segregate ourselves from our allies in Europe, we may also lose their expertise in counter-intelligence, which combined with the Right Wing deniers puts us into a really precarious position. Make no mistake...we are being attacked. No nukes, no tanks, no flame throwers. But in less than two years, I have seen the foundation of our Democracy crumbling, and unless we somehow reign this administration and mitigate Trump's erratic self-serving actions, not only the US but the power of other sane nations will be compromised. Betcha Trump never stands up for our British cousins in his meeting with Vlad.

The propaganda has gotten goofy. The novichok exposures have poisoned and killed people in the near vicinity of the English biological weapons lab at Porton Down. And yet somehow we are to believe that this simple weapon was imported from Russia. Russian oligarchs use bioweapons to kill people. They hire expatriot foreign agents to do the dirty work. God only knows who else does. (Although I'm sure the British and US intelligence services know far more about it then most layperson's.) Were the second pair really poisoned by Novichok? Or did they run into someone's carelessly disposed of pesticide container? It seems odd that the man and woman, of the second couple, became sick during or after they took a bath or shower. I've read of cases where this happened with organophosphate pesticide contamination of clothing but novichok is supposed to be in some kind of greasy base? And it is supposed to be very poisonous in tiny amounts.

Americans had better wake up to the threat that Russia and Putin's puppet Trump represents to America and western democracies. This is also another reason for Britain not to go it alone and leave the EU. This is exactly what Putin wants. He wants to break up western alliances - divide and conquer. And Trump is now meeting privately with Putin to get his orders for the year. We are stronger when we work together and remain committed to the democratic ideals that have kept the world largely peaceful since the last world war.

The Russians seem to have a nasty habit of doing these things. Remember Alexander Litvinenko, a Russian defector, who was similarly poisoned in 2006? The latest similar poisoning of total innocents though is a mystery. Perhaps it was an accident or perhaps it was a deliberate attempt by the Russians to ward off suspicions for the recent Skripal poisonings allowing the Russians to say that with the poisoning of people unrelated to Russia that clearly Russia was not responsible for the prior poisonings and that some other factor was involved.

Excellent article, but it does not explore why the Russians would do this now (6 years after Mr Skripal was sent to Britain), and why they used a method they knew would be traced back to them. It is not a big stretch to think that they intended to send a message to people like Paul Manafort that there may be consequences to collaborating with western investigators. I wonder if expulsion of their diplomats was too lenient a reaction to this brazen hostile act.