Way to Go on Record

Jun 13, 2018 · 88 comments
Leapfinger (Durham NC)
Too late for anything useful, but I wanted to limn a few lines for posterity. Rough yesterday and Firefox' updating ate my solve, so this is from (failing) memory. My breakthrough came when I had #1 and #6 filled in; the realization that there had to be four steps between 1 and 6 showed me how the ladder would rung. Would consider that a Duh moment rather than an Aha, but I take whatI can get. When it was all said and done, was enormously taken with the zig-zag pattern of the ladder's rungs. Reminded me of the switchback climb in Zion (Utah), where you take the Wigglies to reach Angel's Landing. A memory worth having, so thanks for that bonus, Joe Kro. I have never seen a puzzle of yours that wasn't a joy to solve.
eljay (Lansing, MI)
I knew MENSREA from watching”Legally Blond”... it’s kind of embarrassing to admit that...
Just Carol (Conway AR)
Didn’t get a chance to start the puzzle until this evening. Good thing it was solver-friendly. Got it done in very good time for a Thursday. Knew MENSREA from episodes of Law and Order. Love me some Sam Waterston and Jerry Orbach. Knew D(ungeons)AND D(ragons) because of a college boyfriend in the mid-70s. He failed out, largely because of DANDD. My husband and I are dog lovers. Two dachshunds and a yellow shepherd mix rescue currently share our home. We both abhor CHOKECOLLARS. As a puzzle piece it’s fine. As a reality, not fine.
Sarah (Connecticut)
I loved this puzzle! And to Joe Krozel, it's probably a good thing to lose track of the details in the news these days...what better exercise for mental health than to make word ladders out of it all...
Dkhatt (California)
Me too. Plain ole’ Fun. Sometimes a puzzle speaks to you and sometimes not. This one sang out to me.
pj (Vt)
I believe that "take the cake" has its origins in the cakewalk. To "take the cake," a couple would need to engage in extravagant high-stepping while dressed extraordinarily well. So, while the phrase can refer to outrageous badness, it also can refer to extravagant goodness. Anything extreme might "take the cake."
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
"Take the cake" originating with the cakewalk? Yes, no, and maybe. http://grammarist.com/idiom/take-the-cake/
Ron (Austin, TX)
I'd never heard of a "word ladder" so was worried I would cave on this one, especially since the clues were no help. After getting ROLL and POLL, i figured it out, and it became my fastest Thursday solve ever. It helped that I got ROLL, CALL, and VOTE right off the bat. It was fun trying to guess the remaining words. The long, horizontal entries don't seem to have any relation to each other, which I found surprising. I guess I expected a theme there. Agree with RN that the entry for 40D no longer applies (unfortunately) ... BTW, "owlet" seems to be becoming a bit of crosswordese! Again, fun, but I still would've preferred a rebus puzzle or some trickery like last Thursday's ("Bubble up").
Wen (Brookline, MA)
"OWLET" - a singular diminutive of yesterday's 4D (Reactions to buffets?)
Ron (Austin, TX)
Ha-ha!
Mike H (San Antonio)
Another fun puzzle by one of my favorite constructors. I'll take a word ladder over a rebus any day of the week.
Joe Krozel (Creve Coeur, MO)
Thanks Mike! Today's non-rebus theme was thoughtfully devised for all the non-rebus-inclined solvers out there like you! I'll find new ways to tweak an old concept like a word ladder before I even think about making a rebus! -Joe
Andrew (Ottawa)
How about a rebus word ladder? I have no idea how it would work but someone will figure it out... I look forward to that day...
Joe Krozel (Creve Coeur, MO)
Ha! You can't trick me into making a rebus!
Dag Ryen (Santa Fe)
This should have been way easy. But sometimes it takes forever to find the one letter that is out of place, as in LIP instead of LID. Is the LID really a part of the pot, anyway? And for all I know, PANDD is probably a great game. Grrrr. Finally came to my senses.
Mickey D (NYC)
Agreed. That was exactly my sticking point too. When I got it I still didn't understand DANDD. Until early in the morning.
Johanna (Ohio)
This is several rungs above most word ladder puzzles simply because the constructor thinks a couple of rungs above others. A very different Thursday by a very different constructor. I hope you take that as a compliment Mr. Krozel because I mean it as one!
Joe Krozel (Creve Coeur, MO)
Thanks Johanna: I go the extra mile to find new twists on old ideas because I know there are solvers out there like you who notice the difference! -Joe
Dr W (New York NY)
Mixed bag today: seeing who the constructor is I was looking forward to a chewy puzzle and somehow that didn't happen -- it seemed much easier than I expected for a Thursday. A good clean solve, with word ladder assist, at least that. But the bonus (for me) was logging into the blog and seeing that little video -- wow! Thanks!!!!
Joe Krozel (Creve Coeur, MO)
Yeah, today's puzzle was a bit on the easy side: It was a real challenge to make it any tougher because of the many unclued theme entries. For the sake of solvability, I had to ensure that all the Down entries were gettable on their own. -Joe
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
Oh, I don't know... I kind of like the idea of hard clue entries crossing unclued entries. A puzzleful of prospective Naticks.
rabbibarb (NOLA)
I am having a difficult time finding the Thursday Crossword live solve on the NYT FB page. Any suggestions? It's now 1:17 pm EDT.
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
Maybe this just isn't one of those Thursdays? On most Thursdays you can join us at 1pm ET for a live solve of the Thursday puzzles, which often have a tricky component that can confound solvers, at www.facebook.com/NYTimes https://help.nytimes.com/hc/en-us/articles/115014755667-New-York-Times-C...
Jack Sullivan (Scottsdale AZ)
I don't think I have ever seen a bad owl photo. Those eyes... Word ladders and stepquotes are among my least favorite puzzles. This one also included TVVCR, TABLETPC, HADST, IVANI ( clued as First in...) and ARLOS. The long entries are impressive, and it must have been tough to construct. Looking forward to more challenge on the weekend.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Another soft lob....probably the FrSatSun line-up will be killers. How they do love to set us up! I think there was a lot faster route through that word ladder, but whatever. Enjoyed the puzzle....
Margaret Fox (Pennsylvania)
Did not get ‘owlet’ immediately (to me, that is a forest animal, not one of the barn), and thus was sidetracked by infant animal esoterica for far too long. The ‘squee’ factor of my distraction more than makes up for the added time to completion, though.
Tom Morales (Richland, WA)
Which begs the existential question, if a barn owl nests in the forest, what is it?
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
Well, there IS a barn owl (an especially lovely bird) so once you have OW it's rather a give-away, methinks.
Robert Nailling (Houston, Texas)
Side note re 40D: "If only . . ."
brutus (berkeley)
No paper in the drive again. Last time, in May, it was blamed on a power failure in the pressroom. Who knows what happened to the delivery today? I prefer solving on paper but I will sail any port in a storm. Cyberly speaking, the easy access of the check/reveal buttons is a temptation and a distraction...I had all the rungs of the ladder in place but the upper EASTern corner (my acrophobia acting up perhaps) needed a reveal or two. About EAST; the clue might lose its' pertinence if CA splits into a triumvirate of states, No Cal, Cal and EAST Cal... I am always intrigued by Joe K's work. Today was no exception.Thanks Joe, I'll have another...On a sad note, this guitarist from across the pond passed recently; R I P Danny Kirwan. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/10/obituaries/danny-kirwan-dead-fleetwoo... Teenaged Kirwan had input with bandmate Peter Green on this instrumental. The Avian/AERIAL PHOTOgraphy is a sight to behold from Fleetwood Mac's "Albatross," especially the tight shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeKi6ZkbOw Feeling Brave And Free On Flag Day, Bru
Meg H. (Salt Point)
Started slowly but finally got to OAT, ARLOS, and CENTO. The rest came bit by bit, fast here, slow there, but ended up half my average Thursday time. I'm not usually fond of word ladders but enjoyed working my way through this one.
Megan Wallis (Baltimore)
I enjoyed this one; got my best Thursday time but the word ladder made this easier than the usual Thursday fare. Fun!
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
"...the other debut, CHOKE COLLAR, felt a bit grisly to me." Are you way out there on animal rights, Deb, or did you grab the wrong word in the rush? PETA says it's "cruel" to use a CHOKE COLLAR on a dog, but even they don't consider it "grisly."
brutus (berkeley)
A trainer I used to work with always said that there's a right way and a wrong way to do anything. The danger inherent with CHOKE COLLARs is that they are easily obtained and tend to be used by un-knowing dog owners that do not used them properly.
Ron (Austin, TX)
What exactly is a choke collar?
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
I don't know about exactly, but this dictionary offers a definition: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/choke+collar (Perhaps the emus will let this one post faster than my earlier offering)
Andrew (Ottawa)
I have a nit to pick with 47D. Certs is a candy mint.
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
No! Certs is a....
Wen (Brookline, MA)
Andrew, knit picking was yesterday.
brutus (berkeley)
Compromise, it's a brandy mint!
CS (Providence)
I have not been moved to comment this week. I doubt Mr. S would agree with that statement.
dk (Saint Croix Falls, WI)
Deb, Empty nester that you are, or are becoming, means 2 bathrooms will do just fine. Although, lived in one house with a loo for every business day. Decorated each one. The theme encompassing religious icons from around the world survives to this day. Realtor assessing my current home suggested that I REDO the first floor necessary room as it might be offensive to some. My reply: "Do you not think, at times, what happens in here is a religious experience." She tried her professional best but the OMG look was unmistakable. Then she saw the Day of the Dead suit hanging in the front parlor.... No high jinks today thank heavens (scatological reference to the above). Happy Pencil changed RASA to RoSA but I am on to that imp. Played DAND on a DEC10 in grad school (circa 1979). The original game was a green screen with dots marking hallways and had multiple levels. Classmate and I created maps of each level. At level 16 or so the "walls" began to disappear leaving a seemingly vast plain to wander about, occasionally finding your character (again a dot) being teleported into solid rock. Sigh, rambling. 3 week vacation starts in 4 hours. Seems I am a bit giddy. Thanks Joe for another rebus free Thursday.
Phil (NYC)
Unpleasantly easy—mostly just filled it in. Took less than half the usual time for a Thursday.
Lewis (Asheville, NC)
Leave it to Joe to push the envelope -- on a word ladder! This one kept me engaged through to the end, and the ladder plus ROLL CALL VOTE helped me fill in letters. I liked that backward LEER abutting OGLE, and as your resident alphadoppeltotter, I must tell you that this puzzle has an unusually high count of double letters (20), including seven double L's. The puzzle left me alert and happy, and the ladder was a descent into swell.
Wen (Brookline, MA)
"a descent into swell" Great phrase.
Amitai Halevi (Naharia, Israel)
As several posters have noted, this was easy for Thursday but fun. The fact that the themed entries were not defined was no serious deterrent. Defining them whould have made the puzzle suitable for Tuesday.
Marcy (Connecticut)
Fun puzzle, and not just because it was my fastest Thursday ever, I swear. The word ladder helped a lot, and "Source of multicolored Maos" was my favorite clue due to a sudden visualization of why the apparent answer made sense.
Joe Krozel (Creve Coeur, MO)
Thanks Marcy. I get a big smile from your mentioning my "multicolored Maos" clue … especially when you add "a sudden visualization of why the apparent answer made sense." That was exactly the response I wanted from that slightly oblique, slightly silly clue! -Joe
suejean (Harrogate, UK)
Quick comment or I'll miss the coach to Reims and then Rotterdam to get our overnight ferry to Hull. It's been a while since we've had a word ladder and I enjoyed having so many words with the three significant ones giving it that extra twist. Good fun, Joe.
Mickeyd (NYC)
OMG! D AND D! Why didn't they say so??!!?!? Crosswords can be very humbling even in what you thought was your moment of glory.
Mickeyd (NYC)
The word ladder kept me going forward and it was indeed a bit easier than usual but not so easy to destroy its fun. In fact I really like this challenging and yet approachable level of difficulty. I got stuck on MOTE which I will now look up and DANDD I hate video games for a number of reasons so I don't know what that is and really don't want to know. Good puzzle!!! Oh and I spent three years of law school with my best friend doing word ladders in class. We tried to change one dirty word into another in the fewest possible steps and became quite good. If we hadn't passed the bar I'm sue we could have won word ladder tournaments for a living. Dirty word ladder tournaments.
Colin Macqueen (Fort Wayne, IN)
DANDD isn’t a video game; it’s D & D - Dungeons and Dragons.
Mickeyd (NYC)
Thanks. As you see I got it in a sudden and dispiriting moment of clarity. So easy as you probably know but without that crossword flexibility, even with one so obvious (always look out for the AND, OR, etc.), I am a sitting duck. Thanks again.
Xwordsolver (PNW)
The word ladder can be a couple of words shorter...
Rodzu (Philadelphia)
Much faster than most Thursdays. Enjoyed it and liked the word ladder.
Wags (Colorado)
The National League of Cities website lists Second as the most popular street name in the USA, with 10,866 examples. First is in third place and third is in second place, and this is starting to sound like an Abbot and Costello routine. But ELM street is in a distant 15th place. Second is first because what would be First is often Main or some other designation. (Street names are a fascination of mine. You shouldn't get me started.)
Paul (Alexandria, VA)
I only know of one street named Della. (Street names are a fascination of mine. You shouldn't get me started.) Let's go down that road.
Martin (California)
In our little town of Saratoga, the downtown streets start with Third.
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
So First and Second are uptown streets? (Just kidding, Martin.)
Robert (Vancouver , Canada)
and Elke My TABLE PTC (!) was a tabula RASA until some old friends showed up -e.g. SLY, ABS ,ATE , OWLET et al. Managed to connect all the theme words with a pen and got sorta a spiral staircase- which I thought a neat touch. ROLL CALL VOTE reminds me of the recent one on the ''skinny'' GOP Health Care Bill. Sen. John McCain of the SEMIARID State of Arizona showed his class, courage and just plain decency in using his thumb to indicate his 'nay' vote. My heart and thoughts go out to him. He has earned all our prayers. Liked the puzzle, but am CHOKEd up . Cute OWLET, did not know they float like little pillows (which they are, I guess ).
J. J. Driscoll (Holyoke, MA)
"and Elke"??
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
"and Elke"?? J.J., Elke wrote the post using the account that carries Robert's name.
Martin (California)
Actually, since their posts always begin that way I'm never sure who we're speaking with. Sort of like "Hex," Cox and Rathvon. They never reveal who's behind their voice.
LLW (Tennessee)
Love the video! I’ll need my moist OWLET to get CLEAN after I get EGGOS on my PALM!
Michele Topol (Henderson, NV)
Not too challenging but entertaining. I wonder, has anyone ever eaten an Eggo? Doesn’t sound too appetizing...
Tyler (NYC)
I keep Eggos in the house. They're an easy breakfast with lots of energy: carbs plus sugar syrup, and take only like two minutes to make.
Mean Old Lady (Conway, Arkansas)
...and worth every minute? Try Bruce's Sweet Potato Pancake Mix and you'll never go to The Dark Side again.... P.S. Add cinnamon
judy d (livingston nj)
very clever! classic word ladder. liked LOVERS LEAP -- perhaps shown in an AERIAL PHOTO!
Art Kraus (Princeton NJ)
An interesting idea, though it seemed a bit forced, in that the first and sixth words of the ladder shared the same last two letters. The fourth and fifth words could have been dropped if not for the sake of symmetry in the desired three word phrase. As others have said, I seemed to solve this more quickly than most Thursday puzzles, with the lack of clues for the ladder words being the only thing that slowed me down from an even faster solve. (I print out the PDF, which I find easier for me.)
Dave M (PDX)
Just off my Thursday best...the word ladder made for an interesting twist and saved me from the sparse Across entries on my first pass through the clues. Fun puzzle!
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
"...the word ladder made for an interesting twist..." Will we find a Step Quote in the Sunday puzzle?
Wen (Brookline, MA)
Love the puzzle. I have mixed feelings about word ladders. But this one was a little more interesting than usual and had the three word constraint. And the clues that don't give away much - makes it acceptable. But this was on the easy side - probably could've been a Wednesday or even Tuesday if not for some of the long entries. The entries were fresh - like ROYAL BLOOD, TABLET PC, AERIAL PHOTO, CHOKE COLLAR, LOVER'S LEAP, SEMI ARID. Didn't know MENS REA. I think 27D should have been clued as "Parts of A.S.A.P" since it had two of the four words of the abbreviation. Love Aisha Tyler - I only know of her from the show Criminal Minds and she does a very good job in it. Moist OWLET - didn't work as embedded in the post, but followed the link. It's very cute! Speaking of which - isn't that what you use to wipe your hand after eating ribs? Moist (t)OWLET(te)?
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
"Didn't know MENS REA." Catch some "Law & Order" reruns. "I think 27D should have been clued as "Parts of A.S.A.P" since it had two of the four words of the abbreviation." Perfectly fine minor misdirection, IMO. "Speaking of which..." Why do you think Deb used "moist" rather than "wet" to describe the OWLET?
Wen (Brookline, MA)
Barry, I coulda sworn I watched all of the Law & Order reruns. But then, there are so many that it seems I'm constantly re-watching new episodes. I figured the moist OWLET was probably deliberate on Deb's part. But sometimes something like this might be a subconscious thing. And for those of us who who read it and may have missed it (I regularly miss tidbits and have to go back and re-read), it might be worth highlighting.
Mickeyd (NYC)
Barry I'll bet sometimes a cigar might just be a cigar. Although I think moist is in fact more common in this context. Or at least more common than in others.
Brennan (HCMC, Viet Nam)
Yesterday was like a Monday and today I finished faster than an average Wednesday -- I'm thinking not spending 8 hours a day in a classroom wrangling teenagers benefits brain function. [No doubt tomorrow will take me twice as long as usual and teach me that 2 data points do not a pattern make.]
Wen (Brookline, MA)
I finished today faster than my average for Tuesday for sure. Nearly best time for a Thursday and about 1/3 the average time for Thursday.
David Meyers (Amesbury MA)
Good luck with the house hunting, Deb! We have 2 & 1/2 baths, which is plenty.
Wen (Brookline, MA)
Must be house season to be hunting houses.
Sasha (Seattle)
@Wen, that gave me a good and unexpected laugh - thanks!
Colin Macqueen (Fort Wayne, IN)
I saw a sign in rural Ontario once : “Why is it called tourist season if we’re not allowed to shoot them?”
David Meyers (Amesbury MA)
Nice, enjoyable puzzle. I didn’t know OWLETs could float. I wonder if they enjoy it.
spenyc (Manhattan)
And WHAT a pretty bird! Sliding slightly off topic: Since birds weigh practically nothing, I wan't too surprised to see it could float, but I do wonder how it would take flight again, especially since its feathers are presumably not waterproof like almost all waterbirds' feathers are. (Cormorants' feathers *aren't* waterproof, which is why you will see them standing around with their wings outstretched, drying. I wonder what Mother Nature was thinking, since they are aquatic birds that eat fish...??) End of detour...
catpet (Durham, NC)
What I'm worried about is how the owlet got INTO the water. Seems a bit cruel to me, and I know the proper use of a choke collar.
Patrick Cassidy (Portland, Oregon )
An easier Thursday but the lack of clues did make the ladder more interesting. Well constructed and enjoyable, if rather quick. WELL done, Mr. Krozel - I'm glad it didn't have to wait a decade!
Brian (Simi Valley CA)
Aha ! Had to read the blog to get the theme. Fortunately the crosses were straightforward.
Barry Ancona (New York NY)
What "theme" did you learn from Deb's column that was not in the 1A clue, Brian? Or was the term "word ladder" new to you?
Brian (Simi Valley CA)
Used theme and word ladder interchangeably.