As Italy Seeks to Form a Government, Leaked Documents Stir Anxiety

May 16, 2018 · 18 comments
Ma (Atl)
Astounding that they seek an economic relationship with Russia in these times. I guess money trumps human rights, rule of law; the US isn't the only country going through the pendulum shift. Wish it could stop in the middle vs. the extremes.
Nicolas Karonis (Sydney)
Demographic collapse, corruption and incompetence, no investment in anything that might replace textile and white goods where Italians excelled and this is what you get. "All the others are to blame" seems irresistible. Best case scenario: the buffoons will be allowed to run the show and fail tragicomedia style!
VIOLET BLUE (INDIA)
Instead of blaming European Union as regards illegal immigrants,Italy needs to introspect on its weak policies that’s made its borders porous for illegals to flood the nation for onward march into European Union. The aggrieved party should be EU & not Italy. Britain’s exit is due to the burden of hosting illegals.
Duncan MacDonald (Nassau County, NY)
This article is further proof that the UK Brexit vote was sensible. The anti-Brexit advocates never gave a thought about whether the EU was stable enough for the UK to stay in. In fact the evidence was overwhelming that sooner or later other member states would leave it or be thrown out, and that the EU itself was on a path toward insolvency, not to mention member defiance of its laws. Think Greece, Italy, Spain, Hungry...
Herodotus (Washington DC)
@Duncan MacDonald: This is rubbish. Your comment is a non sequitur. Italy’s problems are the euro, which killed italian competitiveness (due to differential productivity with Germany), and the refugee crisis. Britain is neither a member of the Eurozone nor Schengen Space, so it suffers from neither of these. The two countries are simply not comparable.
Bruce D (Mongolia)
I love how they want to introduce economic uncertainty and then turn around and blame the bankers for reacting to it! Let's not forget the 300 billion Italy borrowed and now wants forgiven. And extra protection against other EU nations. Wow - if Italy wants to leave the EU, let them leave. It will be another stark example of what being outside the EU means with a devalued Lira, higher prices for Italians, and still no jobs. Well played, well played.
Allen Braun (Upstate NY)
Italians before the Euro: Ran up massive debts and devalued their currency to get by. Italians after the Euro: Ran up massive debts and can't devalue the Euro to get by. Italian government before the Euro: patronage and corruption, well tolerated by the people. Italian government after the Euro: patronage and corruption, well tolerated by the people. Italian businesses before the Euro: highly protected and protective; restrictive of new entrants; entrenched bureaucrats (government and business) making obscene salaries and blocking entrance to newcomers. Italian businesses after the Euro: highly protected and protective; restrictive of new entrants; entrenched bureaucrats (government and business) making obscene salaries and blocking entrance to newcomers. Any questions?
Neil M (Texas)
First, Germany which took for ever to form a government. And now, Italy. It's hard to believe these sophisticated, more cultured than us Americans and for sure, more sophisticated - as Europeans can never stop boasting - cannot cobble a government together. And the comedy is this government will probably fall in less than 2 years prompting another round of elections. Or are the Russians meddling there too?? Any way you look, I can see why this POTUS has rightfully focused on "America First."
Allen Braun (Upstate NY)
The US Constitution locksteps the schedule of government change and there is no effective mechanism to force new elections outside that cycle at the executive level, or house/senate as wholes. This can't happen in a system that has only limits on how long a government can serve and that is also not artificially locked into a two party idiocracy.
Sophia (London)
Italy, massive debt, economy moribund, hugely corrupt, so yes, why not ask Germany to forgive all your debt and why not leave the Euro? Why not? Almost as stupid as us...
Joe B. (Center City)
Oops, they just forgot to mention the €400 billion they borrowed from the globalist Europeans. Remind me, wasn't Italy the "i" in the acronym "pigs"?
Filippo Radicati (Palo Alto)
It was Ireland
Tom (Philadelphia)
As someone who visits Italy quite often, people shouldn't make too much of this. Italy is a much more stable and moderate place than the rhetoric would suggest. Northern and central Italy, which have all the economic power, are very cosmopolitan in outlook, not that there aren't pockets of racism and xenophobia. The cozying up to Putin is odious but that is also not new. Italian Communists were making excuses for communism up until the collapse of communism and even afterward.
B Berger (Germany)
Actually the so called "far right" League has always been more sucessfull in the rich norh, untill recently it was called "League North".
Antonella Bassi (Sacramento, CA)
Another populist nightmare getting ready to sail on :(
rt1 (Glasgow, Scotland)
I remember visiting Italy during the Lira. All the coins had disappeared, change was given in sweets, gum and telephone tokens. In the supermarket I was given a plastic disc and told I could use it next visit. Investing in Italian securities was a way to watch your investment go down as inflation ate it away. Prices and wages had to be inflation indexed or there would be instant strikes. Greece did not give up the Euro because it did not mean destroying savings, pensions and evaporating any money people did manage to have. We lost a large amt on the pound just by talking about leaving the EU- then doing it. The stock market may have taken a tumble but the Euro stayed firm. Give it up at your peril.
Nancy (Great Neck)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=hYOs August 4, 2014 Real per capita Gross Domestic Product for Germany and Italy, 1992-2016 (Percent change) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=hYOt August 4, 2014 Real per capita Gross Domestic Product for Germany and Italy, 1992-2016 (Indexed to 1992) [ The Italian economy has been failing and the reasons are in domestic policy rather than Euro Area policy. ]
Antonella Bassi (Sacramento, CA)
I agree with your comment, but the populist M5S and Lega have convinced their base that everything that goes wrong is Italy is somehow the EU’s fault.