Soros Foundations Leaving Hungary Under Government Pressure

Too bad you can't throw him out of the USA!

A sad day for Hungary and Europe, with unsettling echos of the 1930's.

Reposted with corrections: Soros Foundations were good in Eastern Europe in the early 90s when there was no civil society, but right now Eastern Europe has a vibrant and functional civil society. In the last ten years, Soros provided armies of protestors for hire via various NGOs, as well as high-level lobbyists, to push multiple issues that went against the national interests and wills of these countries and their people. Globalism, open borders, etc. Soros has become like a para-national structure that tried to weaken democracy in those countries where the will of the voters was different. In short, Soros is now the opposite of what it pretends to be. I know many ordinary people who are counting the days until Soros will die, which shows the amount of hatred his meddling has caused. In response to UA from DC: Hungary and the countries of Eastern Europe are not being asked to help these refugees with help, investment and know-how, like in the example you gave, of Western Europe helping Eastern Europe. They are asked to import these populations that come from a different continent, with a different culture, a different religion and alter the identity of their own nation. They are asked to commit cultural and national suicide! If you find their nationalism narrow-minded, because, as citizens of a melting pot country you can't understand their patriotism, it's your own business but please don't impose it on others.

It's very sad to see the bullied become the bullies. I remember in 2004 when Western Europe was afraid to let in the Central and Eastern European countries because of fears of Polish and Hungarian immigrants taking their jobs and not integrating.

There are 50 Muslim majority countries. Isn’t it odd that we do not hear of any of them accepting Muslim refugees? Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States annually import tens of thousands of temporary workers to do unskilled work, yet they refuse to accept refugees. It is the western countries which are expected to accept all of the Muslim refugees, despite the cultural clash. Muslim cultures are not anywhere as liberal as those of the west, and they are intolerant of other religions and values. Recognizing this, Western politicians in the more progressive parties could have taken a stand against admitting large numbers of Muslim immigrants. They could have said we are not going to accept people who are intolerant of us and of our values. Instead, they championed their acceptance. It is because of immigration that the more liberal parties have been losing elections across Europe and here, in our country. The progressive parties have forsaken every other issue in order to support “open borders”.

Dear NYT writers and editors, you can do something here. Please speak with people across the political spectrum in Hungary--people of different professions, worldviews, ages, locations, ways of life. Give more attention to their views. If people ask for anonymity, grant it--but let them be heard to the extent that they permit.

People don't just make a decision one day to leave their homes in the Middle East or Africa and come to Europe - certainly not Hungry. That's not what's happening. People get on the move when their lives are threatened and they have to choose between death or leaving. My father made that choice during the ravages of WW2. So, it is for us to understand and ameliorate the conditions that cause people to seek safer ground rather than die in their homeland. Ruinous, shortsighted, heavy-handed policies toward Central America during the Reagan years (the same kook, paranoid crowd influencing us today) which destabilized countries that people now, after decades of desending into chaos, find impossible live in. So, they come here for safety and stability. War in Syria, partially caused by destabilizing drought and resulting dislocation. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/science/earth/study-links-syria-co... People get restless and relentless trying to survive when they are faced with terrible times and possibly of death. Surprise! So, they move. And, then, rats like Orban and Trump take advantage of the bigotry they can stir up. To benefit only them. Selfish men. Now, when the potable water source of one quarter of the Earth's people dries up because Himalayan snow disappears due to climate change, what do you think those people will do? Stay and die? Or migrate? Connect dots in this world. Or else, trouble.

I don't understand why Soros is satan to conservatives but the Kochs, who are wealthier and more visible to most Americans are like grandpa.

Soros believes in open borders and opposes nation states. That is why he is disliked by most conservatives. But the Koch Brothers also believe in open borders and oppose nation states, yet they are championed by conservatives. It’s time to wake up and realize that George Soros and the Koch Brother want the same thing, though perhaps for different reasons. The Koch Brothers and similar Business Roundtable Republicans view open borders as a way of limiting the power of national governments to enforce wage/labor regulations. Open borders for goods (offshoring) through free trade agreements are ideal, but for industries that cannot easily move, a steady flow of cheap labor into the U.S. will have to do. George Soros’ motives are less clear. While he professes the reasons of humanitarianism and world peace, it should be remembered that Soros was/is a capitalist who made his fortune breaking one arm of a national government (i.e. Bank of England).

Soros foundations were good in Eastern Europe in the early 90s when there was no civil society, but right now Eastern Europe has a vibrant abd functional civil society. In rhe last 10 years, Soros provided armies of protestors for hire vus various NGOs, as well as high level lobbiests, to push various issues that went against the national interests labd wills of these countries abd thrir people. Globalism, open borders, etc. Soris has become like a para national structure that tried to weaken democracy in those countries where the will of the voters was different. In short, soros is now the opposite of what it pretends to be. I lnow many ordinary people who are counting the days until soros will die, which shows the amount of animosity his meddling gaz caused.

It is Soros' attempt to use his private wealth to undermine governments that is unprecedented in Europe. Orban is the true patriot of Hungary, and the voice of the future. France may surrender their country and their culture to the muslims, they are far down the path. Britain might as well. Hungary will not.

History is repeating itself way too quickly. I'm the grandchild of an Auschwitz survivor - I would never have thought in my lifetime I'd see the world heading in this direction so quickly. Never underestimate the threat of ignorance.

To counter the dearth of balanced TV and radio news coverage in enormous swaths of the US hinterlands, George Soros should direct financing here at home, through expansion of broadcast of PBS and NPR broadcasts. Without an engaged approach to "fairness doctrine" broadcasting as it once existed in the US, rural America will remain hopelessly ignorant, smothered as it is in non-fact-based conservative diatribes.

As there is no longer a democracy in Hungary, I quite understand his willingness to leave. Sad for the Hungarians who benefited from his good works in that country, but when the dictator in chief says you are part of the problem, it is time to go.

It's time for the EU to cut off funding to the illiberal governments of Poland and Hungary. There's no benefit in rewarding fascism.

"Mr. Orban himself has painted Mr. Soros as a shadowy figure seeking to undermine the country’s sovereignty." All this is just another example of the resurgence of anti-semitism in Europe. Right-wing populists like Orban are bringing the ideas of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion into the mainstream. I mean, look at that poster! Could you make it any more obvious?

Good riddance! I hope Soros will leave Europe and especially Eastern Europe alll together since they are no longer needed.

Soros has done more to fan the flames of anti-Semitism than Orban could ever possibly achieve on his own.

The Soros Foundation wouldn't be in this mess if they hadn't involved themselves in the migration debate. They failed to realize - or perhaps did not want to face - the depth and breadth of mistrust for migrants in Eastern Europe. And because it's not just the government or a few politicians in Hungary that oppose migration but the majority of citizens as well, pressure on Orban for this cause increased his popularity. The Soros Foundation has sacrificed its many viable missions for a purpose that was a lost cause from the beginning. Based on his own experience in Hungary, Mr. Soros ought to have known better.

Liberalism joined with conservativism to defeat socialism. Too bad the liberals didn't foresee the conservatives turning on them as soon as the socialists were defeated. When the socialists were powerful the working-classes were a strong bulwark against reaction. Without the leadership of the socialists and the trade unions, the working-classes will gravitate towards conservativism, not towards bourgeois liberalism. Liberals simply can't get through to the working-classes because their devotion to free-market fundamentalism of liberals means that they won't ever get behind an unfree (i.e., unionized) labor market. As far as the workers are concerned the liberals are no different than the conservatives on the issues most important to them and worse on social issues and immigration, and, like it or not, the workers still make up the bulk of the potential electorate in Western societies. Liberalism is finished. It has another 10-15 years left, at best.

"The (Soros) foundations, which promote democracy, free expression and civil rights". While they may do that on paper, in reality their function is to stir up political discontent and provide financial support to all kinds of often dubious NGO's fomenting dissent and stir up opposition to the policies of the (elected) government in power.