Is that Jayne Atkinson character the leader of The Whisperers?
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Not sure but I was really impressed that she was wearing a white shirt that looked cleaned and pressed. Cleaners anyone?
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The answer must be in that medieval manuscript!
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What will Negan do to Simon, re: Simon's killing all of the garbage people? Your thoughts?
Why does Rick no longer bathe?
In real time, the events of this season has covered about two to three days. Given what's been going on, I don't think anyone has had the time for a luxurious bubble bath.
Plus, I doubt that there are any showers down in the Alexandria escape sewer.
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I want to know the brand of batteries these cars are using. They never go dead ever.
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The gasoline is always fresh, too. How many years have past since the initial outbreak?
About three years, RPS.
"Negan regards his weapon of choice, affectionately nicknamed Lucille, like something between a loyal pet and a lover."
I'm going to say more like his mother. Negan reminds me of a nephew who (quite immaturely) jumped to the defense of his mom once, "You can't talk to my mother like that!!!"
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I have a dime-store theory of acting. FREE for a nickle; three for a dime. It goes like this: as language-using animals, one of our more interesting traits has a pretty short evolutionary history. Take lying as an example. All social animals have a desire/need/tendency to deceive others of their species, but those who use language for that purpose have spent less time perfecting their medium, so bound to be some glitches in our behavioral repetoire when it comes to using language for that purpose.
Start with Steven Ogg who plays Simon. Among the cast, I'd say he's a superior liar, but what makes him most effective is that his lies are delivered non-verbally (heavily dependent on non-verbal cues). The money shot for this example takes Dwight as the liee and Simon as the liar. Dwight is looking out of the passenger-side window of the truck receiving large amounts of palaver to the effect that he should defy Negan; Simon is driving. To deliver his lie, Simon turns 180 into the camera and stops talking. His face radiates pure self-satisfaction. The verbal equivalent might be “God! I am such an awful liar!”
For comparison, take Jeffrey Dean Morgan playing Negan with Lucille in the car beside him as herself. Negan has a bucket of blood and guts into which he dips Lucille. He positions her in the bucket, leans back, and in the voice you used to adore, he says, “You are so beautiful, baby,” while 3.7 million viewers cry out in unison “God, you are such an awful liar.” Unambiguous.
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"All social animals have a desire/need/tendency to deceive others of their species, "
Dolphins and elephants don't.
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Being as circumspect with my use of the language as I can, I wish to challenge your claim. Dolphins and elephants are social animals who, almost by definition, struggle for position by deploying those strategies available to them through their evolutionary history. To contest this claim, you might explain how the exclusive reliance on aggression so absolutely superseded any utilization of deceit in pursuit of their goal. I've never heard anyone make that argument, but if you Googled hard enough you might identify a credible scientist who does.
It has been awhile since I studied rape and sexual slavery in dolphin populations, but if memory serves, instances of deception were documented in the process of encircling and capturing the unwilling victims. Male scientist-observers, particularly those among the first reporting these findings, may have been confused about exactly what they were seeing. The sort of joyful pleasure expressed in these observations of the playfulness of dolphins involve deceit along with the violence.
For interspecies violence to persist concomitantly with a reluctance to participate in interspecies deception would, in my opinion, be quite an extraordinary finding. Please refrain.
That's intrAspecies, of course, not intERspecies.
Intraspecies violence might include jackals against jackals, typically male against female. Interspecies violence would be more than one species, like the jackals, the dolphins, and the pig-headed humans all at one another's throats. Or, I suppose an interspecies conflict might include all the male jackals, dolphins, and pigheaded creatures against the female ones. The emphasis would be out of whack, so I wouldn't recommend it to an editor.
May I assume we're through with this for now? I'm going to do a couple or three scripts on the Rhetoric of Science Fiction. If you're not interested, just ignore it as if I'd offered you instruction on Leon Trotsky's History of the Russian Revolution. Although I would add that an opportunity to learn what the Russians have been thinking about the rhetoric of persuasion since World War II ought not be squandered lightly. Believe me when I tell you that no one is going to coerce you into growing up
One more thing: there is no "flash forward"! We learned that it was just a fantasy that Carl had as he was dying; a fanciful idealization of how he wished things might turn out. It was adolescent through and through (Rick looking all "old" yet it was not more than 5 years out). Writer, may I ask if you would explain why you use that term?
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The writer described it as a "paradisiacal flash-forwards". I don't know what your objection is, but it appears to be an apt characterization.
I can't believe that, while Frodo and Gollum were fighting over the ring in the fires of Mt Doom, Simon and Dwight just stood around outside talking and cavalierly discarding cigarette butts without fully extinguishing them.
Where did Jadis come from?
The Martina Navratilova character's appearance also seemed a bit unusual for the world they live in. But what the heck, at least she appreciates music.
As I've posted before, my strategy for watching The Walking Dead has shifted. It used to be a show filled with suspense where I tried to identify with the main characters as they struggled against deadly perils. To enjoy the show now I prefer watching it Mystery Science Theatre 3000 style. Lots of snark and don't overthink this comic book turned TV drama.
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I stopped watching TWD after the last frustrating season. I read this review hoping to discover that perhaps the show was returning to the suspenseful drama of its previous seasons. I won’t be tuning in.
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Georgie reminded me of Garrison Keillor - looked like him too - except for her resistance to the spoken word albums. Methinks she might be related to Eugene.
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I was thinking that too—“oh no, not another Eugene!”
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Georgie and her band of two were complete plot devices. Maybe they will blossom into a story line that is credible and crucial, but the way they were introduced is far-fetched. And the fight scene between Rick and Negan was littered with improbabilities: Rick running out of ammunition just as he had a clear shot at Negan: Negan falling two stories down a hole w/o any injuries; Negan being pushed into that chamber of zombies and being able to avoid being bitten while being able to hide from Rick. I mean, really! I know we're supposed to suspend our disbelief, but the quality of the show has dipped so dramatically during the past two seasons, that it's hard to ignore the plot turns that exist to justify the narrative.
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Moving back and forth in chess with no prospect of a win is a 'draw'
Being a a particular position where you can't move except to place yourself in check is a 'stalemate' - which results in a draw.
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C'mon writers, give me a break. Where the heck did Jadis come from to take Negan hostage? What's the point of taking him hostage anyway? After the Saviors massacre, just put a bullet through Negan's head. I'm so close to calling it quits on the TWD as many of my friends and relatives have.
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I wondered if she was going to deliver him to Rick. Or attempt to.
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as has been mentioned, too many things in this episode happened off camera: Negan's crash, Negan's escape, Jadis's return, Negan's capture by Jadis. The whole episode felt jumpy. It was an extra long episode; I wonder what got cut.
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"Better deal." She can get something from Rick.
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Why isn't Simon picking up on Dwight's placidity?
Last scene with Jadis - Best closing of the season.
Sometimes a pencil is just a pencil - but in Georgie's case, not! No spoken word albums - lol. And what's up with those creepy twins?
Did not see that Negan retrieved Lucille - when? He has truly anthropomorphized the bat.
Surprised Rick did not chop off a Negan body part when the latter was hanging by his hands. And who survives a fall like that without breaking a bone?
It is time for Rick to bathe.
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Is Neagan turning from a heel to a baby face? I know I have been rooting for him
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Me too. Bur Rick has become the tragic king, with all these tests of people.
I wish they would all die and the zombies live out there wonderful mindless lives in peace.
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Actually I thought this was a fascinating episode in a lot of ways, with unpredictable twists to it that may have escaped the more benumbed viewers.
I'll have to think about it a bit before really going off on a rambling analysis but firstly, Dwight's lighting a gasoline fire in the traditional way is highly ironic. I mean, look at his face, you'd think he'd be as pyrophobic as The Hound.
Also it's not easily done, gasoline fumes will ignite with a mere cigarette, but not the liquid, so if it's not dropped into a half-full can, a smoke won't usually ignite gas. That's why the other cliche, throwing a Zippo, is the optimal way to light spilled gasoline, and a terrible waste of Zippos.
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Lol The Hound. :)
As for gas not igniting, is this why people are able to put out a cigarette in a bottle of beer, without the beer going up in flames?
Tell me somebody got the ironic thing about my use of "ironic" there...
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iron - ic?
Keeping Negan alive through a car crash, beating from Rick and fire is so wrong. Steven Ogg is a much better bad guy. He makes Negan look pathetic.
Now they add Georgie who found the only hair salon in Walker Land.
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Speaking of hair, what I found most interesting in the last couple of episodes...Darryl washed his hair apparently.
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Judith may have insisted. Actually it's nice to see her interacting with people. I hope they'll be able to keep her on screen more. She makes the rest of the actors more appealing, too. Not just Daryl!
What about the helicopter from a few episodes ago? Could Georgie be from some civilized place?
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