‘Here and Now’ Season 1, Episode 5: Commitment Issues

Mar 12, 2018 · 22 comments
HK Geezer (New York, NY)
I find the show compelling enough to return to each week, but given the short number of episodes, I'm not sure I'll stick around for another season. Given the shortage of comments on each re cap, I'm guessing this show is not generating the interest of audience that HBO had hoped for.
JR (Providence, RI)
I think HBO was banking on Alan Ball's cachet (as was I). I'm invested enough at this point to see how season 1 ends, but I won't be back -- and the series may not return either, by the looks of it.
holbee (New York, NY)
This show is better than True Blood and most of Six Feet Under. I am always aghast at people who thought those two shows were "quality television" (though to it's credit, sometimes Under was). I love Here and Now. Not as much as I'd like to, but I love a show with a mixture of the humdrum and extraordinary. Right next to each other.
Zach (Minneapolis)
I cannot remember where I heard the show described as the "anti-This is Us." Perfectly describes the show. I watch both.
L (U.S.)
The characters in this show in every scene mention the city they live in. They are always dropping in the word "Portland" as if to add some kind of contemporary relevance and or resonance to the content. Then they get in cars and drive the wrong way to a neighborhood they mention. Or invent a park for a psychotic episode. What is this mess about anyway? Oh yeah, "here and now". This is lie no here or now that I have ever seen. And the "Portland" they are living in is a ridiculous fancy reimagining of the place. Pretentious nonsense by HBO with obligatory "sex" scenes thrown in every 15 minutes.
Ryan (Portland, OR)
that's a real park (Forest Park - the 7th largest urban park in the US with excellent hiking trails). I hike by that structure that Ramon had his psychotic episode; it's on the Macleay Trail so it isn't "invented." And the Portland they live in isn't as far off from the truth you think. We do have racial issues as we are the whitest big city in the US. Diversity is celebrated here despite not having much at all, but people (especially those in the economic class the Bayer-Boatwrights are in, try too hard sometimes to be "woke."
Hychkok (NY)
This is hilarious. I’m wondering if this person thought they hadn’t been watching a fantasy reimagining of NYC in all the movies and tv shows they’ve ever seen. Cuz trust me, the NY of tv and movies never existed. All location tv shows have people walking down a street, turning a corner and walking onto a street halfway across town.
heisenberg (nyc)
The premise of this show seems engineered specifically so that its creators would have the opportunity of examining every compelling complexity of the human experience. I suppose they want to do so because they are smart and curious people, and because ideas are interesting. What does it mean to be faithful? What does it look like to relinquish control? What is identity? How can we claim our own in a world that is constantly telling us what it means to be gay, African American, or Muslim, how we ought to behave as an aging woman, or an aging man? Yet I cannot watch this show without feeling that I am on a tour of the People and Their Foibles exhibit in a richly marbled museum where each human conundrum is being represented by someone who is highly successful, attractive, loved and cared for deeply, financially privileged and by all accounts ignorant of every bit of their moral luck. Kristen and Navid wiling away the afternoon in a homeless camp, swinging on a burned out car like a jungle gym, blissfully unaware and bizarrely gleeful at turns was about as much disconnect as I can deal with.
JR (Providence, RI)
Its deadening self-consciousness kills any genuine feeling this show was so carefully crafted to evoke.
Ryan (Portland, OR)
I mainly watch because I live in Portland (my wife likes to call it our "pretentious Portland show" and it does play into some of the legit stereotypes here) and like to see the places where it's being filmed (Ramon's apartment building I walk by on my way to work out, I often hike by the place he had his hallucination). A note on Duc and Vancouver, I'm quite sure those were fantasies he had, not actual experiences.
MTWMD (Alexandria,Va)
no.. I think he really had those experiences and then, as was picked up by Ms Berman, he then indulged in junk food...but I guess we shall see.
Hychkok (NY)
Doesn’t anyone else notice that Duc only bedded non-Asian women? When a pretty Asian woman checks him out in a club, he turns away from her and heads for the white girls. I couldn’t really see in his flashbacks if his mother’s johns were all white servicemen.
Emmett Cooke (Atlanta)
I am sorry, but this show's characters may represent the most self-absorbed people in an ensemble cast I've ever witnessed on an HBO series. Each one of them is sooooo preoccupied with their own egos, it is hard to watch. One of the adopted daughters is miserable about being Afro American adopted by loving white parents, but married a white man who just loves her and her daughter. Their Vietnamese son is a poster child of dysfunction, an OCD who poses as celibate, while he keeps his violent sex life a secret, and I guess we are supposed to believe it is all because of his mother's prostitution he witnessed as a child?? The totally aimless spoiled youngest daughter, the Iranian son who may be gender fluid, cross dressing or gay, how much could these writers jam into one family or series. I could go on, but, like the young gay Barista Henry, I want to tell him to run screaming away from this family and the series. Life is just not this hard, dudes.
Red Meat-eating Liberal (Harlem, NY)
Emmette Cooke: "Afro-American?" It's 2018, Emmette, not 1972. And yes, life is "that hard," and Americans, particularly white Americans are epically, grotesquely egoistic, narcissistic, and self-privileging. Or haven't you heard who the current "president" is: an epically, grotesquely egotistical, narcissistic and self-privileging racist, lying rapist who could feel the "pain" of white Americans having to endure an educated, thoughtful, and largely successful black president. Dude. The show might not be all of this or that. But it's on to something far more real and truthful than a country that contains citizens who still use the term, "Afro-American"––and still maintains the racist system that necessitated the term "Afro-American" in the first place.
Valerie (Nevada)
I keep watching, because I really enjoy the performances by Holly Hunter and Tim Robbins. I have a brief understanding of their marriage and their disappointments in life, so their story line is interesting to watch as it develops. As for the (4) children - all of them are self centered, self involved and ungrateful for the beautiful lives they were given. I find it difficult to have sympathy for any of them (regardless of their start in life). There is so little appreciation for what they've been given or for the sacrifices their adopted parents made on their behalf. I have a hard time feeling invested in their life journey. As I said, I watch for Holly Hunter and Tim Robbins.
Emmett Cooke (Atlanta)
OMG, I just finished having this same discussion with my wife!! I am totally with you. They should call this series, "Portlandia on Crack"
MTWMD (Alexandria,Va)
HBO describes this show as a "darkly comic look at present-day America". Comic?? What IS this show trying to be? A This is Us/Lost/Modern Family mash-up?? I'm intrigued for now because of the cast (and Alan Ball) and I identify with Hunter and Robbin as aging hippies but I find the show sometimes cringe-worthy. (In what universe does a school have the budget for an "empathy consultant"?) I am willing to follow along, for now, hoping there will be satisfying pay-offs ito character development and an understanding of the connection between Ramon and Farid. I also appreciate seeing a complex Muslim family playing a central role without being related to a suspected or would be terrorist.
Brazilianheat (Palm Springs, CA)
Lame episode all around but, no, Greg didn't respond with more lies. He responded with an apology, which seems to have aggravated his overwhelming wife even more, quite a feat of acting for a Holly Hunter who always seems to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Last but not least, a note to the stylists of "Here and Now": somebody please brush Ramon's hair! As cute as the guy is, every time I see him my scalp starts itching.
JR (Providence, RI)
Greg's first response was to dodge his wife's questions about his regular $300 withdrawals from their bank account, saying that he needed some spending money. It wasn't until she called him "Simon" that he gave up and admitted the truth.
JR (Providence, RI)
My first thought when Henry mentioned Waco was that he was a child involved in the Branch Davidian siege. If so that would mean that four of the characters -- Henry, Ramon, Luc, and Farid -- are dealing with post-traumatic stress from childhood horrors. We don't know Ashley's Liberian origin story yet. Not a coincidence, and maybe this is at the root of the hazy premise of this show. I believe there are only two more episodes this season, so I hope Ball shines some light on this soon.
MTWMD (Alexandria,Va)
PTSD is clearly central to the plot and concept the "porous mind". There is some evidence that PTSD may actually result in physical changes in the brain. Do we need so very many characters to explore this phenomenon and the issues of control, identity etc? Meanwhile, see https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/feeling-too-much/201302/ptsd-window...
MTWMD (Alexandria,Va)
please disregard the link above...it is not what I intended to share altho maybe "thin boundaries" renders someone as more susceptible to telepathy?? (am not fully up to speed on the porous mind phenom)