If only we could impeach Congress... We need a new rule for congressional representatives who try to pass laws by using the debt ceiling crisis instead of a normal vote. Here it is: Feel free to use the country's credit as hostage, but if you do, in the next election, your district will automatically be split into four sections and parceled out to four adjacent districts.
If the issue is important enough to blow up the U.S. economy, the representative and district should be willing to put some "skin in the game."
If the issue is important enough to blow up the U.S. economy, the representative and district should be willing to put some "skin in the game."
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Paul Ryan's conditions for becoming Speaker of the House:
a) carte blanche authority
b) no dissent in the rank-and-file
c) a mirror that says "I'm the best looking male Congressman in office."
d) Freedom Caucus changes its name to Freedom Fries Caucus.
e) John Boehner will fill on on weekends, holidays, and during tough bill negotiations.
f) lifetime contract as P90X exercise workout program spokesperson after career in Congress is over.
g) gets to do Speaker job from home in Wisconsin via Twitter, and Instagram to show his abs off.
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Here is a better democratic party member summation of Paul Ryan.
"My opponent chose as his running mate the ideological leader of Republicans in Congress," Mr. Obama said, "and I've gotten to know Congressman Ryan. He's a good man. He's a family man. He's a very articulate spokesman for Governor Romney's vision. The problem is, it's the wrong vision for America."
That is a classy way of disagreeing. Most of the comments here are just venom spitting.
"My opponent chose as his running mate the ideological leader of Republicans in Congress," Mr. Obama said, "and I've gotten to know Congressman Ryan. He's a good man. He's a family man. He's a very articulate spokesman for Governor Romney's vision. The problem is, it's the wrong vision for America."
That is a classy way of disagreeing. Most of the comments here are just venom spitting.
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You'll have to pardon some of us. It's hard not to spit venom when someone sets out to harm children, the elderly and the disabled.
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One part of me views this as a good solution. The Republican party is so divided that our congress has been dysfunctional for the past 6 years.
But the other side of me cringes to think that the party could unite behind the discredited philosophy and the unrealistic budgets put forth by Paul Ryan. Perhaps we're better off with a disunited GOP.
The real solution to our ineffective congress is law that reforms the problem of gerrymandering legislative districts. But just like the question of who is speaker, it's a catch 22. Both items can only be voted upon by this toxic group.
But the other side of me cringes to think that the party could unite behind the discredited philosophy and the unrealistic budgets put forth by Paul Ryan. Perhaps we're better off with a disunited GOP.
The real solution to our ineffective congress is law that reforms the problem of gerrymandering legislative districts. But just like the question of who is speaker, it's a catch 22. Both items can only be voted upon by this toxic group.
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Daniel Webster, the nominee for speakership from the Freedom Caucus is a terrible choice for a reason no one else in the Caucus seems to realize.
The Florida courts are in the process of un-gerrymandering his district, redrawing it so its more fair, and if that goes through he'll be running for reelection in slightly democrat district so his chances of winning reelection are not good.
The Florida courts are in the process of un-gerrymandering his district, redrawing it so its more fair, and if that goes through he'll be running for reelection in slightly democrat district so his chances of winning reelection are not good.
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chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, where he has been trying to assemble sweeping legislation to overhaul and simplify the tax code "
Good, let's get him out as chairman of Ways and Means, where he does more damage, and stick him in the mud of intransigent minds even smaller and more self-satisfied and closed than his own.
Good, let's get him out as chairman of Ways and Means, where he does more damage, and stick him in the mud of intransigent minds even smaller and more self-satisfied and closed than his own.
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As the constitution allows ANY citizen, elected or not , to be the Speaker is there no one else in the USA that will volunteer for this high paying job ? Perhaps it could be a one month job and another citizen would take over (12 per yr until a new Congress is elected).
The effectiveness (ie. lack of) of the "monthly" Speaker would not be problem unless he/she decided to invite Netanyahu to address Congress again.
The effectiveness (ie. lack of) of the "monthly" Speaker would not be problem unless he/she decided to invite Netanyahu to address Congress again.
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Paul Ryan is correct is establishing guidelines before accepting this position. Not only is he correct, he is very smart in doing so. There is such a great gap--breakdown-- between the parties it has become a great hardship to this country and all its citizens, and it has got to stop. I believe Paul Ryan would be able to put order back into our leadership. I am sorry that He and Mitt were not elected to VP and President. We would not be in such a mess today, and behaving in such an embarrassingly juvenile way in all matters.
Part of me doesn't blame him. Why take a job knowing a fifth of your team will attack you from almost the first moment? Republicans are split along as to how hard they want to fight and how much they are willing to compromise. It is as if there are two parties on the right, whereas the Democrats are fairly unified further on the left. Its a relative thing. Moderate Republicans are sometimes tagged RINOs by the far right yet this what their last two nominees were called by others on their side. But a moderate Democrat - Jim Webb - could not survive even one debate. There are almost no moderate Democrats in congress relative to the far left. Most do not run from the word "liberal," "progressive," and for some, even "socialist," any more. There are few policy differences between Sanders, an acknowledged socialist, and Clinton.
As for Ryan, this is politics, and there is a reason it is said to be like herding cats. Partisans especially want politicians who will not shy away from a fight. I think it is one reason many people like Donald Trump. Ironically, the president is for Democrats what the tea parties would like in their leaders - a fighter. I like Paul Ryan. But, to be a leader, you both have to lead and have followers. You can't demand unity. Unity would be great for his party, but those who elected the tea party conservatives want their party to fight and I can't blame them either.
As for Ryan, this is politics, and there is a reason it is said to be like herding cats. Partisans especially want politicians who will not shy away from a fight. I think it is one reason many people like Donald Trump. Ironically, the president is for Democrats what the tea parties would like in their leaders - a fighter. I like Paul Ryan. But, to be a leader, you both have to lead and have followers. You can't demand unity. Unity would be great for his party, but those who elected the tea party conservatives want their party to fight and I can't blame them either.
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If the Republicans in Congress could unite, Boehner would still be the speaker!
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Should he assume the House leader's chair, stay tuned for the Hollywood retrospective, "Saving Speaker Ryan."
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It is, at this point, extremely stupid of me to be jaw-dropping amazed at the right wing's frittering away time and energy on this, given that we have the debt ceiling, the Federal budget, the Afghanistan War, Syria, the Medicare fix, a highway bill, a desperate need for immigration reform and an infrastructure bank, and about fifty actual things that Congress actually needs to do.
Way to prioritize, kids. Still, thanks for giving voters a good close look at what happens when you guys get a solid majority.
Way to prioritize, kids. Still, thanks for giving voters a good close look at what happens when you guys get a solid majority.
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Perhaps Gerrymandering wasn't a good idea? It put incompetents into Congress and now nothing can get accomplished. And Paul Ryan, an Ann Rand devotee, will just be the frosting on the uncompromising cake. Fasten your seat belts!
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There are three statements the American people, led by the Democrats, should demand that Paul Ryan make if he becomes Speaker:
1. "I repudiate, completely and without reservation, the official Republican Party policy, as enunciated by Mitch McConnell, of obstruction for obstruction's sake, that is, of simply opposing any law or policy that the Democrats propose."
2. "I repudiate, completely and without reservation, the anti-Christian, atheistic doctrines of Ayn Rand that I spent decades declaring as the fountainhead of my political philosophy."
3. “I have contacted all the people, especially the young interns who have worked for me, on whom I foisted Ayn Rand's works, and I have apologized for trying to poison their minds and souls."
1. "I repudiate, completely and without reservation, the official Republican Party policy, as enunciated by Mitch McConnell, of obstruction for obstruction's sake, that is, of simply opposing any law or policy that the Democrats propose."
2. "I repudiate, completely and without reservation, the anti-Christian, atheistic doctrines of Ayn Rand that I spent decades declaring as the fountainhead of my political philosophy."
3. “I have contacted all the people, especially the young interns who have worked for me, on whom I foisted Ayn Rand's works, and I have apologized for trying to poison their minds and souls."
Obviously they can't unite. That is the whole problem.
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Paul Ryan, he's the man! God Bless Him, he is good and only wants to do good!
So, "Representative Dave Brat of Virginia, has issued a list of 10 commitments he expects any speaker to make, including opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants and reducing the speaker’s power."
Would it be too much to include the other 8 commitments?
Would it be too much to include the other 8 commitments?
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The Republicans have long voted to spend billions of dollars "protecting" our freedom from foreign enemies, but the real enemy of democracy is the radical Freedom Caucus, and a Republican party unwilling to take a firm stand in stopping it.
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When you lie down with dogs (GOPers) you always get fleas. As a hairy animal himself Mr. Ryan might not notice the fleas , in fact he has a few of his own to share.
After his father's death Ryan received Social Security survivors benefits until his 18th birthday yet pushing the Tea Party budget agenda wants to prevent people in need from getting gov`t assistance. I guess he got his so that`s all that counts.
Can Mr Ryan herd a bunch of silly cats bent on preventing (but unsuccessfully)Obama from righting the USA ship after the horrible (evil) disaster of the W years.
After his father's death Ryan received Social Security survivors benefits until his 18th birthday yet pushing the Tea Party budget agenda wants to prevent people in need from getting gov`t assistance. I guess he got his so that`s all that counts.
Can Mr Ryan herd a bunch of silly cats bent on preventing (but unsuccessfully)Obama from righting the USA ship after the horrible (evil) disaster of the W years.
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In other words, he'll run for speaker when pigs fly. This is just a politically safe way of refusing the calls for him to take the position.
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"relatively few legislative goals" says it all. The progress is our country has ground to a halt due to a minority of legislators. They have no desire to fulfill their title and legislate. Ryan looked and decided to take the bull by the tail and face the situation. Apologies to W.C. Fields. The country is being held hostage by a discordant group of paranoid whiners armed to the teeth, fearing gays, women, and stem cells.
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I would like to see the republicans elect someone from the Freedom Caucus just so the can show the American people just what their intentions are. After they have caused the United States to default on its debt and brought down the American economy, maybe, just maybe, people will understand how idiotic their positions on thing such as the IMB, raising the debt limit, and shutting down the government are. I am tired of these forty congressmen holding the country hostage to their fanatical ideas. If they spent half as much time trying to build consensus as they do futilely trying to repeal Obama Care and defunding Planned Parenthood, they might actually accomplish something. I am mourning what has become of the republican party. The sooner the republican party disassociates itself from the tea party the better. If Paul Ryan can get them to take any position other than "No", I will be amazed.
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It is becoming increasingly clear the Republicans are no longer a single, cohesive party. With minority demands driving their own agenda and limiting their ability to govern, the GOP faces having to form a coalition government of sorts, counting on centrist Democrats to counter the crazies on the right who are the real RINOs today. Is there a precedent for a speaker elected and supported by a mix of Rs and Ds?
Paul Ryan is wasting his time and energy. Already the extreme right wants to obtain more power. With the power they now have they have brought the Republican Party to their knees. No time soon do I expect a Republican President
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And here I thought Paul Ryan was a smart guy. OOPS, to borrow Rick Perry's utterance. Ryan is either naive or stupid to think that all Republicans will conform to his demands. These are the same people that will say and do anything to get what they want. These are the people that the lobbyists buy legislation from. These are the same people that have a 10% approval rating with the American voter.
Ryan has to be out of his mind to think they will allow him to run the House according to his rules. Ain't gonna happen Paul.
Ryan has to be out of his mind to think they will allow him to run the House according to his rules. Ain't gonna happen Paul.
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1. I think we should fully repair Social Security.
2. I think we should fully address our homeless problems. (How can we take in refugees and immigrants while THOUSANDS of American citizens are HOMELESS?)
3. I think we should address the massive killing being done by Planned Parenthood (reportedly an estimated 57 million babies [in the womb] killed during the past 42 years).
4. I support the Right of Mrs. Kim Davis of Kentucky to retain her elected office and not be forced to violate her conscience. (Those religious freedom rights must be protected.)
5. I think we should stop the anti-Christian campaigns. It appears that many governmental entities and universities [in the USA] are firing and/or failing to hire Christians [it appears that Christian ministers are especially targeted]).
6. I support the RIGHT of less senior members of the US Congress to be treated fairly. Why should the entrenched longevity members control everything? Why should the Speaker of the House determine which bills reach the floor?
7. I truly believe that the unGodly slant of the USA has the nation on the path to destruction.
Now, if Mr. Ryan (being a Repuiblican) cannot adequately address items #3, 4, 5, 6, and 7, above, I do not believe he is the person that should serve as Speaker of the US House of Representatives.
The pecking order is offensive. A "junior" member of the House can be an effective Speaker of the House. (Don't be deceived by the unGodly media.)
2. I think we should fully address our homeless problems. (How can we take in refugees and immigrants while THOUSANDS of American citizens are HOMELESS?)
3. I think we should address the massive killing being done by Planned Parenthood (reportedly an estimated 57 million babies [in the womb] killed during the past 42 years).
4. I support the Right of Mrs. Kim Davis of Kentucky to retain her elected office and not be forced to violate her conscience. (Those religious freedom rights must be protected.)
5. I think we should stop the anti-Christian campaigns. It appears that many governmental entities and universities [in the USA] are firing and/or failing to hire Christians [it appears that Christian ministers are especially targeted]).
6. I support the RIGHT of less senior members of the US Congress to be treated fairly. Why should the entrenched longevity members control everything? Why should the Speaker of the House determine which bills reach the floor?
7. I truly believe that the unGodly slant of the USA has the nation on the path to destruction.
Now, if Mr. Ryan (being a Repuiblican) cannot adequately address items #3, 4, 5, 6, and 7, above, I do not believe he is the person that should serve as Speaker of the US House of Representatives.
The pecking order is offensive. A "junior" member of the House can be an effective Speaker of the House. (Don't be deceived by the unGodly media.)
Well played!
There is more to life than being Speaker of The House.
There is more to life than being Speaker of The House.
The job is a suicide job as there is no way the wackos on the right will stay "behind" a speaker. It is like herding cats. Until Republicans become serious about legislating by abandoning the anti-democratic Hastert Rule keeping any non-Republican legislation from the floor and acknowledging that government has a function, they will continue to be largely loud-mouthed and irrelevant to the public. They do nothing except obstruct.
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Ryan is as radical as the rest of the Freedom Caucus - a group of about 10% of elected representatives who seem to have the power to hold progress at bay. His coy ploy as the "reluctant" leader who wants to be seen as a reasonable man among this ship of fools is pretty obvious. His election will serve to drive America back to the 1920's and will be interesting but very painful for the middle class.
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If they can unite? I thought a leaders job was to unite, something no one in the current administration, or congress can seem to do.
The divisions in the Republican party are probably too deep to be healed by Paul Ryan or anyone else. The GOP has gone off the rails, but it is a smart move by Ryan to give them an ultimatum before accepting the leadership in the House.
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I'm sure all these right-wing "patriots" can rally round the great (Ryan-championed) causes of trashing Social Security, Medicare, and various New Deal safety-net aspects, like unemployment insurance benefits!
Just look at the smug smile on his face in the accompanying photo. This guy smells powers and sees his (once unspeakable) goals almost within his grasp! But only in the interests of "party unity" of course!
Just look at the smug smile on his face in the accompanying photo. This guy smells powers and sees his (once unspeakable) goals almost within his grasp! But only in the interests of "party unity" of course!
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I'm not a Republican nor am I a fan of Paul Ryan. But he has demonstrated an important principle of successful negotiation that I learn from my first manager.
You have to care, but not that much. He doesn't want the damn job. Who could blame him. So he lays out his terms and if they are rejected he is just as happy to walk away
You have to care, but not that much. He doesn't want the damn job. Who could blame him. So he lays out his terms and if they are rejected he is just as happy to walk away
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The Freedom Caucus represents the military/industrial complex.
If Ryan can marginalize them, he can unite the GOP.
What's the chance of marginalizing the military/industrial complex?
If Ryan can marginalize them, he can unite the GOP.
What's the chance of marginalizing the military/industrial complex?
Best honest sounding man, be he Democrat or Republican I have heard in a very long time. Mr. Ryan stick to your integrity and only agree if all your requests are granted. No sense moving into a position of deadlock from the beginning. You are to be greatly admired.
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If horses were wishes, beggars would ride.
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Rep. Ryan's posturing is truly laughable. He wants to emphasize the GOP message - what message is that - pandering to fear, racism, ignorance and extremism? He wants the GOP to be part of the solution - to what - the problems they caused in the first place? He wants to reign in the bomb-throwers - he's one of them.
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All of these Republicans act like whining spoiled petulant children. This man is a hypocrite of the highest order. He wants to cut "entitlements" and this is the same guy who is was living off of them courtesy of his father. Paul Ryan and the rest of those right wing clowns should be reminded that those "entitlements" that they refer to is OUR MONEY......the taxpayers.
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"...if republicans unit"...
Yeah, good luck with that.
Yeah, good luck with that.
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Is one of his conditions that the dishes be cleaned before he washes them?
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"Paul Ryan Says He’ll Run for Speaker if Republicans Unite"
Funny, sad and at the same time, so entertaining!
Funny, sad and at the same time, so entertaining!
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that is a pretty big 'if'.
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Just don't ask him any questions about Benghazi.
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A massive waste of tax payer dollars! America can't afford Republicans!
Without fundraising, Paul Ryan will be more even more toothless and ineffectual than John Boehner. He has literally no way to compel support and therefore I expect nothing will come of this.
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Hopefully the public is talkng note,
Ever teach kindergarten where several kids have behavior issues or sit on a committee composed of ego maniacs unable to hear anyone else? Who takes on the Speaker job really doesn't matter as the membership has far too many people who do not play well with others no matter the overall situation.
The Republican house needs assistant Speakers, house psyches, some teachers and a principal. Kind of like Kindergarten.
Ryan would be nuts to take it though in the end it might give him the maturity he lacks and so sorely needs.
Ever teach kindergarten where several kids have behavior issues or sit on a committee composed of ego maniacs unable to hear anyone else? Who takes on the Speaker job really doesn't matter as the membership has far too many people who do not play well with others no matter the overall situation.
The Republican house needs assistant Speakers, house psyches, some teachers and a principal. Kind of like Kindergarten.
Ryan would be nuts to take it though in the end it might give him the maturity he lacks and so sorely needs.
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The book, "All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten," was somehow overlooked, left on the bookshelf, or never opened by this group. Remedial classes are in order.
It's so beautiful to see a guy who wants the whole team to pull together so they can cut food stamps for poor children.
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Thats right Rachel. It is all the Republicans fault. Meanwhile, I was in San Francisco a week ago where poor homeless individuals many with obvious mental issues were on every street corner....steps down from the Four Seasons an incoherent homeless individual was passed out with his pants pulled down to his knees...Meanwhile, same weekend, over in glorious Pacific Heights Obama was part of a 32,000 dollar a plate Democratic Fund Raiser. So stop with the finger pointing.
Funniest and most painful comment, ever!
I'm amazed at the gutless wonders in the Republican party. The job is too difficult because of the far right? So, no one steps up? Where is the leadership?
I think of the men and women in our armed services that face true dangers and difficulties because they believe it is the right thing to do. Does anyone in the house have a sense of duty to the American people to do the job they were sent there to do?
I think of the men and women in our armed services that face true dangers and difficulties because they believe it is the right thing to do. Does anyone in the house have a sense of duty to the American people to do the job they were sent there to do?
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I get the impression that most of the "Freedom Caucus" isn't real familiar with military service or sacrifice.
Good point about comparing their positions with those of the patriotic men in women in the military. But as Dave K. has stated, the Freedom Caucus is actually doing the job that their constituents sent them to do: Say "No" to everything and shut down the government.
Man, when are the Republicans going to learn that they won't get anywhere as long as they continue to make unrealistic demands and issue ludicrous ultimatums. Calling for party unity and an end to antics...such a crazy thing to ask for that'll never happen!
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You misunderstand what the Freedom Caucus is saying.
They *want* the government to be shut down. That was what they were elected to do, that is their stated purpose, and they believe that if they can stall the Republicans having a vote for Speaker indefinitely by preventing any Republican from getting a majority, they will get what they want.
The reason they want the federal government shut down is that their constituents are absolutely 100% convinced that everything that the feds do is bad for them (except possibly the military). The only way I can think of to change those peoples' minds would be to give them what they're asking for for several years so they can see for themselves: no more federal highway money, for instance.
They *want* the government to be shut down. That was what they were elected to do, that is their stated purpose, and they believe that if they can stall the Republicans having a vote for Speaker indefinitely by preventing any Republican from getting a majority, they will get what they want.
The reason they want the federal government shut down is that their constituents are absolutely 100% convinced that everything that the feds do is bad for them (except possibly the military). The only way I can think of to change those peoples' minds would be to give them what they're asking for for several years so they can see for themselves: no more federal highway money, for instance.
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So true, Dave K!
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Dave K - Great post. I'd add a reminder that the same people who elected the Freedom Caucus are the first ones to put their hands out for federal funds when they need them.
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If they could "unite" there wouldn't be a speaker crisis in the first place.
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good point
Why does he need the 40 or so crazies? There are around 170 Democrats waiting for a Hello, will you join me?
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I think most of us are waiting to see if Republicans capitulate to the demands of a fringe group that insists on ideological purity with the goal of destroying all partnerships between citizens and government.
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The Republican elite have been pushing forward Paul Ryan since he came up with a plan to rob Social Security and Medicare and transfer the funds to Wall Street, greatly pleasing the major donors to Republicans.
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It's a sad day for the American republic when somebody as far right as Paul Ryan suddenly looks like a centrist. Let's not forget, this is the guy who proposed (seriously) privatizing Social Security and cutting Medicare severely. His budgets never balanced because, let's face it, he wasn't willing to tax the 1 percent. His current charade should fool nobody.
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He is from Wisconsin, where Scott Walker (back to being its governor) wants to borrow money to fix highways, so he can claim he never raises taxes.
"…Ryan said Tuesday that he would be willing to serve as speaker if all the factions of his party could unite behind him…"
This is "cart before the horse" leadership. In other words, it's no leadership.
This is "cart before the horse" leadership. In other words, it's no leadership.
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What does it say about the state of the Republican Party when no one wants the job that is second in the line of succession to the Presidency?
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To davidwar:
You've commented on the scariest part of this whole issue. In the worst case scenario, one of these unqualified extremists may wind up becoming president.
You've commented on the scariest part of this whole issue. In the worst case scenario, one of these unqualified extremists may wind up becoming president.
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It's a mess.... America can not afford Republicans.
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Looking in from abroad, it seems like an utterly thankless task (no comment on what I think of Paul Ryan, other than it matches how he’s viewed from abroad, out here in The Wasteland beyond The Thunderdome) to try and unite the Republicans.
After all, the modern Republican party seems to have been successfully hijacked by a wide range of lunatics, fundamentalists and extremists, speeding away with every hour from being what was once an internationally respected party as it hurtles down the road of all-out nuttiness and luncacy, sprinkled with liberal amounts of intolerance, animosity and bigotry.
In other words, it's anything but a united party, and is pulling in a dozen different directions - largely as many of its biggest names would be viewed as extremists here in Europe, with each pursuing their own personal agendas.
As such, trying to find any kind of moderate figure (remember them?) to unite the disparate strands of the fractured, divided and divisive Republican party would be about as thankless/rewarding as herding cats: theoretically possible, but who’d want to bet money on a successful outcome?
Still, good luck finding the right man or woman for that utterly thankless task – but whatever else you can say about Paul Ryan, a cat herder, he is not...
After all, the modern Republican party seems to have been successfully hijacked by a wide range of lunatics, fundamentalists and extremists, speeding away with every hour from being what was once an internationally respected party as it hurtles down the road of all-out nuttiness and luncacy, sprinkled with liberal amounts of intolerance, animosity and bigotry.
In other words, it's anything but a united party, and is pulling in a dozen different directions - largely as many of its biggest names would be viewed as extremists here in Europe, with each pursuing their own personal agendas.
As such, trying to find any kind of moderate figure (remember them?) to unite the disparate strands of the fractured, divided and divisive Republican party would be about as thankless/rewarding as herding cats: theoretically possible, but who’d want to bet money on a successful outcome?
Still, good luck finding the right man or woman for that utterly thankless task – but whatever else you can say about Paul Ryan, a cat herder, he is not...
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It's "herding housecats", not "herding cats". The alliteration is essential.
Paul Ryan: "I'll run for Speaker, but only if no one opposes me in the process"
Profiles in Courage right here folks!
Profiles in Courage right here folks!
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That was my thought too: I'll get into this contest if I'm guaranteed to win it beforehand. What a brave and passionate leader!
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Paul Ryan is right to be nervous to walk into that deal. Why would he want to go into that position strutting in like a preening peacock only to be thrown out like a plucked chicken in a few months? I would tell him to be careful and not to trust those guys. I wouldn't.
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"Uneasy lies a head that wears a crown." It is abundantly clear that Ryan neither wants nor will become Speaker hence his "requests" yesterday. If Ryan takes the position that that there cannot be a government shut down or a debt default then the Tea Party will not support him under any circumstances. Frankly there are a fairly large number of Republicans in the House and Senate who would like either or both events happen. Why>? Because it may well be their last chance to reverse the economic progress that has been made during the Obama Administration and the last thing the Republicans need during an election year is a steadily improving economy that they had no part in.
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Who cares which loser become the Speaker of the House?
Americans have voted to destroy their own country.
Americans have voted to destroy their own country.
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*Some Americans...
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well put
We don't need to "defund" the government, the government needs to spend on infrastructure, R%D, education, climate change.
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Have all the Republicans forgotten the words of the infamous, annihilistic, bomb-throwing, self-serving ex-Vice President Darth, er, Dick Cheney, who famously said, "deficits don't matter"?
So was his highness wrong about THAT, too????
So was his highness wrong about THAT, too????
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Yes.
What's your point?
What's your point?
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His point is that when the Republicans had the WH not one of them complained about Bush's spending. He spent money like a drunken sailor and we didn't hear one peep out of any of them. Ryan and the rest of those Republican clowns are HYPOCRITES.
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Is anyone really surprised by this? Ryan has been in the best position all along, because the Republican Party needs him more than he needs them. He has played this perfectly from the start. I believe he knew that he would take the job, but that he would make them beg him to do it.
Good for him.
Good for him.
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I'm not so sure the Freedom Caucus will be willing to go along with Ryan, which would make it a win-win for him, i.e., he appears to be a party loyalist, but he doesn't have to sacrifice his presidential ambitions by being tarnished by an unruly group that won't play along with anyone.
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I completely agree. He was in the prime seat as soon as they came to him, with hat-in-hand. How is it going to be for the Freedom Caucus if they are holding out on their own Party, even, just to get their man in the spot?
Of course, the Freedom Caucus does not really see themselves as Republicans, and they don't really like government anyway, so....
Of course, the Freedom Caucus does not really see themselves as Republicans, and they don't really like government anyway, so....
Paul Ryan's conditions for serving as Speaker are essentially the same conditions that are implicit for any elected official serving the people. The real issue here is why are elected officials (the freedom wing of the republican party) allowed to hold our country hostage? President Obama has been repeatedly abused by the far right. In spite of that, he has managed to be an effective catalyst for change - remember 2008? Hope & Change? He has delivered exactly that. Nobody said it would be quick and easy. Thanks for staying the course Mr. President.
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A: because elected officials represent the people.
The sticking point will be getting rid of one of Thomas Jefferson's rules of the house. Ryan is asking "the House eliminate a rule that allows a member to seek a vote to oust the speaker. That provision is part of the original rules of the House, authored by Thomas Jefferson."
If the rule is rejected it means Paul Ryan will remain Speaker of the House even if no House member supports him. As it is any member of the House of Representatives can file a motion that the Speaker vacate the chair. Such was filed against John Boehner a few months ago by one of the radical Freedom Caucus Republicans. The rule is their biggest weapon to use against future Speakers they are afraid might compromise with the Democrats on ANYTHING.
I'm getting out my lawn chair & popping a lot of popcorn to watch what I think will be a very interesting fight ahead. Negotiating with the insane never goes well but hopefully this exercise might teach dimmer US voters to become a little better informed before they send crazy people to Congress.
If the rule is rejected it means Paul Ryan will remain Speaker of the House even if no House member supports him. As it is any member of the House of Representatives can file a motion that the Speaker vacate the chair. Such was filed against John Boehner a few months ago by one of the radical Freedom Caucus Republicans. The rule is their biggest weapon to use against future Speakers they are afraid might compromise with the Democrats on ANYTHING.
I'm getting out my lawn chair & popping a lot of popcorn to watch what I think will be a very interesting fight ahead. Negotiating with the insane never goes well but hopefully this exercise might teach dimmer US voters to become a little better informed before they send crazy people to Congress.
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IMHO the dense voters you mention are as crazy as the people they elect
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The Republicans should invite the tea party crowd to go form their own party. They are obviously more trouble than they are worth and are incapable of anything approaching effective governance.
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This is actually VERY effective governance. They are limiting the potential for Congress to create headaches for the rest of us.
In other news: "Four year old informs sandbox-attendees of his intention to take his marbles and go home."
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What he is saying is that the Republicans could get something done if their cousins from the far right weren't constantly messing things up with their inability to compromise. I think a lot of the country feels the same about the Republican Congress as a whole. Paul they won't shut up because they care more about getting reelected than they do about representing the needs of our country.
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If he really doesn't want the job and would rather stay where he is, why give up what you like for a huge headache? If there isn't another qualified Republican to take this on, then we are in real trouble. Maybe we SHOULD vote them all out! Democrats and Republicans alike!
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And I'll be the designated hitter for the Yankees if they play tee ball.
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"I'll only agree to serve if you guys let me," says former Presidential aspirant Paul Ryan, demonstrating his special brand of political courage. Kind of reminds me of another similarly courageous Republican, Abraham Lincoln. Didn't Lincoln agree to be President, but only if the South didn't secede? 'Cause think how hard his job would have been otherwise.
So this is what passes for leadership in the Republican Party these days.
So this is what passes for leadership in the Republican Party these days.
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If you're a Democrat, you should be cheering. Paul Ryan's ultimatum is pretty much win-win. If he can actually manage to tame the so-called Freedom Caucus, then at the very least, we're better off than we were in Bohner days, where the smallest disagreement can lead to shutting down the government. On the other hand, if Ryan can't tame them, then you can watch the fireworks--as the Republicans again take down their most pragmatic leaders--which are sure to be just as brilliant as Bohner's surprise resignation and the chaos that followed.
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The Freedom Caucus has no intention of uniting with the slightly more sensible members of the GOP in the House. The smirk on Ryan's face in the accompanying photo will soon be wiped off. The Hastert Rule assures no compromise with Democrats while the Freedom Caucus undermines the Speaker. Congressional paralysis (and apparently lying about hush money), thy name is Hastert.
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The options are few:
1) The "Freedom caucus" commits to changing its ways on behalf of a new Speaker.
2) A new Speaker succumbs to "Freedom caucus" demands.
3) A new Speaker joins with Democrats when necessary to get necessary government business done, blowing off the "Freedom caucus".
The first seems unlikely, and the second would solve nothing. If you want me as Speaker (I understand I'm eligible), it's #3.
1) The "Freedom caucus" commits to changing its ways on behalf of a new Speaker.
2) A new Speaker succumbs to "Freedom caucus" demands.
3) A new Speaker joins with Democrats when necessary to get necessary government business done, blowing off the "Freedom caucus".
The first seems unlikely, and the second would solve nothing. If you want me as Speaker (I understand I'm eligible), it's #3.
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The Democrats should support him if he pledges to drop the "Hastert Rule". This would potentially give more voice to the (somewhat more) moderate Republicans.
Perhaps he can use some of the magic asterisks from his budget proposals to quell dissent.
Perhaps he can use some of the magic asterisks from his budget proposals to quell dissent.
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The "Hastert Rule" is exactly what got us in trouble in the first place. The authors of the Constitution never intended to create a House of Representatives that could be controlled by 26% of its members.
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He's making demands? In exchange for what? What can he give them that Boehner hasn't already tried to bring them in line? He's in a no-win situation, and should just start making plans for his post-Congressional career as a lobbyist now. I'm sure Eric Cantor can line something up for him.
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All hail King Ryan!!! The GOP Is so dumb they just may fall for it. They will be punch drunk for the rest of the week, just in time for Ryan to get the deal done, then once the conservative caucus wakes up from their hangover the whole deal will fall apart. As it does not make sense to negotiate with terrorists, neither does it make sense to negotiate with the conservative caucus.
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In 2012 the GOP nominated Paul Ryan to be the Vice President of the USA.
How exactly they envisioned the entire America uniting and trusting him if even the elected Republican Representatives cannot follow Mr. Ryan?
How exactly they envisioned the entire America uniting and trusting him if even the elected Republican Representatives cannot follow Mr. Ryan?
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Following Paul Ryan's offer to become Speaker only if Republicans promise to cooperate, I'm here to announce that I will run the NYC Marathon as long as I don't have to get up off my sofa.
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Here is the thing, Mr. Ryan. The extremists in your party don't share your devotion to Congress, the Republican Party, or our country. They think that to compromise is to capitulate and refuse to recognize that their vision of America is not shared by the vast majority of Americans. The House of Representatives is rigged to keep those who represent the views of a minority of Americans in power, and it is power they won't easily give up. It is my hope that like all extremists before them (anyone remember the Dixiecrats?) they will fade away before they cause lasting harm.
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"Republicans uniting" in some alternate, rational universe would mean that the 40 "Freedom Caucus" members would fall in line behind the large majority of the ~190 other Republicans in the House. They would then govern according to the political realities of having less than 60 Republican members in the Senate and a Democrat President.
If Ryan can become the speaker while not capitulating to the demands of the raucous Tea Party fringe - so much the better for him and the rest of us.
Ted Cruz has recently been referring to a "volcanic rage" among the Tea party members and their supporters for not getting their way. This is an apt description in line with the classical description of narcissism. When those who feel privileged, and special, and believe that they are better than others (all evidence to the contrary) have their bubble burst - a volcanic rage is what ensues.
If Ryan can become the speaker while not capitulating to the demands of the raucous Tea Party fringe - so much the better for him and the rest of us.
Ted Cruz has recently been referring to a "volcanic rage" among the Tea party members and their supporters for not getting their way. This is an apt description in line with the classical description of narcissism. When those who feel privileged, and special, and believe that they are better than others (all evidence to the contrary) have their bubble burst - a volcanic rage is what ensues.
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Congressman Ryan and his Tea Party congressional supporters have really played this well until their voters get sold down the river again to big business. Americans should be thinking W but with no principles. That is Ryan's track record.
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This will be problematic at best. They'll *say* they'll unite for the sake of not losing the speakership to the Democrats, but the actual differences will remain and rise up on key votes. I'll wait and see, but....
The "freedom" neanderthals believe that they are the only "principled" folk in the Capitol. To them the word compromise is dirty (never mind any other important requirements of a democratic political system). As such they will not acquiesce to Mr. Ryan's appeals for party unity and discipline.
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Why do I expect Frank Underwood to be walking behind Ryan in all of his photos?
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No Ryan. Ryan states he does not want to be a party of opposition. What is the point of a 2 party system if both are going to stand on the exact same platform? For those that think he should get the office so as to stop some kind of far right wing revolution, I say we need a second party to hold back those destroying our Constitution. Those who think there is no separation of powers. The President may have a pen and a phone but he does not have a throne. He is there to execute the laws handed down by Congress. At this point in time Ryan seems to support any and all items on the President's agenda. Again, we need two parties, not one.
Cigoulet, you think the President should just do whatever Congress says. I'd like to point out that this President was twice elected by a true majority of American citizens. This Congress was not.
Trying to work with the House Republica zealots brings the phrase "herding cats" mind. Ryan may be familiar with the saying of Irish origin, "Minding mice at a crossroads". Pick your aphorism, and good luck to him. You can't negotiate with crazy.
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"Representative David Brat...issued a list of 10 commitments he expects any speaker to make." -- Sounds like the junior representative from Virginia is living up to his name.
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I'm surprised he could win when the opposition slogan practically writes itself: "Brat's Worst"
As Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Ryan brings tremendous knowledgeable and experience to the Speaker position. The key question is not whether he can unite Republicans - he can - but whether Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will finally end their recalcitrant guerrilla war against democracy. Republicans were elected to the majority in Congress, by the American people, to do certain things. It's time to let that process play out.
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That's funny as shoe is now on the other foot and the Party of NO is crying foul!
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Ray, you forget that the majority of Americans actually voted for Democratic House candidates in 2012 over Republican candidates. The Republicans have a "gerrymandered" House majority, a small majority in the Senate, and the country has a Democratic President. These are the realities on the ground, which most moderate Republicans understand. The current dysfunction comes from the minority "Freedom caucus" Republicans who don't believe the rules apply to them.
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Spoken by a true republican. Did you not read the words of the Freedom Caucus? The Dems should bow to ridiculous requests. I sure hope not.
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Did he offer the same framework for totalitarianism for his predecessor? Didn't think so.
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Unity? Govern? Wow! That would be something to see from this Congress. Sadly, we have minority rule now and I don't see that changing.
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He didn't play "a rather canny card", but the only card. The story did not mention his role in crafting the immigration reform compromise that fell apart. As far as the far right bomb throwers and hand wringers, like my dad used to say, "you can't talk to a drunk".
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Even the members of the Republican Party admit they have been Obstructionist (at the expense of the American tax payer).
AMERICA CAN NOT AFFORD REPUBLICANS. VOTE THEM OUT!
AMERICA CAN NOT AFFORD REPUBLICANS. VOTE THEM OUT!
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The problem never becomes the solution. That's glib speak for a man who looks like he's going to sell his soul.
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Prediction....the GOP will say they will unite under Ryan just to get Ryan into the role, and after 1 week it will be clear to everyone that this House is not united. Maybe even less than a week.
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Ayn Rand's spiritual disciple is dead in the water. The Freedom Caucus will never agree to Ryan's demand for unanimity, his necessary requirement. The Caucus is already circling Ryan's wagons, sneering and snarling in the great tradition of George Wallace (or was it Strum Thurmond?): "never!" The Caucus is the full-blown alien adult, a hideous metamorphosis from what, at this remove, seems like the charming Tea Party. The Caucus is feeling a power it hasn't yet realized but knows that it within reach. The Caucus holds against Ryan his vote to bail out the bankstas. Additionally, they see him as too ready to compromise with the enemy. Ryan is a dead man walking. Chaos grins behind the GOP/TP door.
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" The House is an institution that does its job well " , I love that ! This House has accomplished less than any other in the history of the republic . They cannot govern because their idea of governing is incorrect . The Republicans do not understand why they were elected nor do the have any concrete plan , except maybe to shut down the government which they are supposed to serve . How stupid is that ? Empower a minority of members , they are kidding right ?? !
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And if and when they shut it down, I bet they will have arranged to get their pay on a regular basis!
Paul Ryan has to be kidding! His party has been unwilling to unite around anything heretofore (at least in recent times) and his possible speakership is not about to change that. The lack of party coalescence led Congressional Republicans to have a record of obstructionism and failed attempts to undo the ACA, as well as leaving Ryan's former running mate, Mitt "I'm severely conservative" Romney with a split personality as a candidate. Wishful thinking.
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The fact that members of the Freedom Caucus publicly admit their willingness to force a government shutdown or default makes them unfit for office. Their reckless pursuit of fringe ideology is unconscionable - time to vote them out of office.
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No fan of Ryan, but I find myself sympathizing with him. Maybe he can help neuter this insane, power-mad wing of his party by putting them on the spot and putting pressure on the less-crazy members to step up and show some backbone. "No conditions except the ones I want, you accept me as speaker or I walk since I don't really want the job anyway. Your move."
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Why waste sympathy on someone who wants to harm the most vulnerable members of our society?
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This single comment shows how the republican party has become a party of marginalized extremists.
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Isn't it in the Speaker's job description to lead the majority and unite them? What will he do when some do not fall in line on an issue? Have a tantrum? John Boehner could not unite the party and get action. Does Ryan think just because he dictates these conditions the party members will just fall in line consistently? He is either arrogant or naive. He has no hope of success.
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Tea Party members in Congress, under the Freedom Caucus, "now have relatively few legislative goals." This peculiarity raises an obvious question about why said individuals are legislators! Just for showdowns over Planned Parenthood and the looming threats of government shutdowns and fiscal cliffs?! Remember the bombast in November.
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With the advent of the Tea Party, an office once sought eagerly by the shrewdest power-seekers in Congress has become an office no thinking congressperson will take on without "restructuring." Meanwhile, the Tea Party hostage-takers simultaneously demand structural change in their own favor. And because they hate government anyway, the stalemate is just fine with them.
Thank you, Supreme Court-condoned gerrymandering for giving our democracy unaccountable, undefeatable lawmakers.
Thank you, Supreme Court-condoned gerrymandering for giving our democracy unaccountable, undefeatable lawmakers.
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Why does this "giving hope"? If that were possible, it would have happened. Paul wants everything perfect before he takes the job, and doesn't that take the cake! He thinks that every nut job in his party will magically unite for him, but isn't that the point of being a leader, doing the uniting? Like every other politician, he'll lead after the leading is done already.
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"David Schweikert of Arizona... The contest for House speaker “is not about an individual..."
But that individual will be second in line for the Presidency if, God forbid, there be a need. Doesn't that play into any decision making?
But that individual will be second in line for the Presidency if, God forbid, there be a need. Doesn't that play into any decision making?
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The Republicans chased Ryan until he caught them. Nice clinic you put on there Ryan.
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The country sits by and watches 40 extremists representing only 10% of the population hold everyone else to ransom. America can only be conquered from within, and now we see it happening.
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I live in Amash's territory and unfortunately, no one seems able to defeat him. That he and his cohorts in the so-called Freedom Caucus can hold the legislative process hostage is sickening. I cringe every time I see him in the news. He's an embarrassment.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if ..... he doesn't have to manage anybody.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if .... he doesn't have to deal with any right-wing wacko birds.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if .... he doesn't have to deal with any Republicans.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if .... we make everything really, really easy for him.
That's powerful American leadership, Paul Ryan.
Welcome to the burning vat of kerosene that is the Grand Old Pyromania party.
Don't get too badly burned.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if .... he doesn't have to deal with any right-wing wacko birds.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if .... he doesn't have to deal with any Republicans.
Paul Ryan Says He Would Serve as Speaker if .... we make everything really, really easy for him.
That's powerful American leadership, Paul Ryan.
Welcome to the burning vat of kerosene that is the Grand Old Pyromania party.
Don't get too badly burned.
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What's Ryan's opinion on the Benghazi panel?
Let me get this straight. The putative savior of the Republican caucus requires all sinners to come to Him before He accepts the mantle and to swear fealty forever after. What could possibly go wrong with that scenario (read: inquisition, persecution, blindness to reason, over-reaching leadership, assumptions of infallibilty - oh, wait, the same old Republican caucus only worse)?
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Ryan's "offer" to the hardright Republicans, the Tea Partiers, who have rebelled against the autocratic power of the Speakership, is that they must unconditionally surrender and accept his autocratic power, if he agrees to accept the job. If they make this "deal" (their abject surrender in exchange for nothing), then what have they been doing all these years, and to what purpose? Having driven one speaker out of the Congress, as well as one majority leader, and forced the leading candidate to withdraw, their submission to Ryan's demand will mean that they stand for nothing. What a lesson they will teach us, not to mention their supporters.
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If one can tailor the job to one's advantage in advance of accepting it, that's clever. I personally don't see why a job candidate gets to rewrite the job description, but I can certainly understand why Paul Ryan has made the conditions he has. If he is able to get the Freedom Caucus to give up their freedom to espouse their point of view and vote as they wish, I think he will have undercut their claims about what they stand for. Denaturing them in this way might well be a good thing, but I am curious that they would capitulate that easily, unless they really think Ryan will champion their positions and so they don't see them as giving them up but merely entrusting their implementation to a leader -- and that, in my opinion, would definitely not be a good thing.
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“I came to the conclusion that this is a very dire moment, not just for Congress, not just for the Republican Party, but for our country,” Mr. Ryan said. Really? Ya Think, Mr. Ryan. It would be best for Mr. Ryan to keep his current job and for Mr. Boehner to un-retire and clean up the mess he made by getting rid of the Hastert rule that has stopped most reasonable legislative progress over the last six years and work across the aisle with Nancy Peolsi for bipartisan solutions to the difficult decisions that face OUR nation.
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If...
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The outright hatred tfor the other party in our two party system and that dominates this leftist arena reveals gridlock and its leftwing root: arrogance.
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Thank god there is no such vitriol from the right, even about their own membership...
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Republicans dominate Congress. And if you read the article, Ryan was addressing the obstructionist GOP members.
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Yes. If only the Democrats could become less hostile to the other party and more amenable to across-the-aisle compromise, following the laudable example set by today's Republican Party.
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Wow. Someone who is actually negotiating with difficult republicans. Maybe Ryan can show everyone else how it's done.
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Negotiation: "discussion aimed at reaching an agreement"
Ultimatum: "a demand or statement of terms, the rejection of which will result in retaliation or a breakdown in relations"
I don't see any "negotiation" going on here. What I see is a game of chicken, the final consequences of which are the wreck of our government.
Ultimatum: "a demand or statement of terms, the rejection of which will result in retaliation or a breakdown in relations"
I don't see any "negotiation" going on here. What I see is a game of chicken, the final consequences of which are the wreck of our government.
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Ryan wants something he can not get.
The Neanderthals who want to dismantle the New Deal [SS, FDIC Sec unemployment insurance] and Medicare /Medicaid and ACA financial regulation EPA will not compromise and will not support a candidate for Speaker who does not support their reactionary goals.
The Neanderthals who want to dismantle the New Deal [SS, FDIC Sec unemployment insurance] and Medicare /Medicaid and ACA financial regulation EPA will not compromise and will not support a candidate for Speaker who does not support their reactionary goals.
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One has to see this as an astute move on Ryan's part. "No" would come back and haunt him as much as accepting the position as Boehner leaves it.
If, and it is a debatable if, he gets a majority to go along with his conditions, it potentially boosts his future presidential ambitions. If it doesn't fly, he still comes out looking like a team player.
It shows Ryan as adaptable, to some this is a good quality.
If, and it is a debatable if, he gets a majority to go along with his conditions, it potentially boosts his future presidential ambitions. If it doesn't fly, he still comes out looking like a team player.
It shows Ryan as adaptable, to some this is a good quality.
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Recent research has revealed the Neanderthals to be a far more sophisticated and cooperation-minded communal people than was previously understood.
Please stop insulting the Neanderthals with ugly comparisons to groups far more dysfunctional and maladapted.
Please stop insulting the Neanderthals with ugly comparisons to groups far more dysfunctional and maladapted.
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Until they all reach the age of retiremnt. Then watch them sing a different tune.
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When pigs fly. Oh, wait, I meant when the Republicans unite.
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"I'll do it if I don't have to work for it, if I can be home by 5 every night, and if nobody criticizes me."
I'm surprised he isn't demanding a sedan chair borne by pages and peeled grapes for breakfast.